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Sunday Buzz: Let’s Dissect USC’s Entire Performance

The USC defense gave up touchdowns in five of Utah’s final six possessions. The sixth possession was a fumble at the 3-yard line.

That’s the kind of defense Clancy Pendergast and Todd Orlando would be proud of.

None of it was new. I harped on the defense’s ability to give up all kinds of yards every week. Sometimes, it was vs. the run and sometimes the pass.

But the fanboy media, which tries to create myths in the offseason about the offensive line or certain players, tried to rehabilitate the defense. The culmination was the Washington State game, where they ignored Jaylen Jenkins rushing for 130 yards. This is the same Washington State team that produced 10 points last night at Oregon State.

USC’s defense has plenty of holes. It gets worse when no adjustments are made to cover the tight end and it tries to survive in a bend-but-don’t-break mentality.

  • Let’s not let the offense off the hook either. The offensive line has Caleb Williams running for his life too often and that’s when drives stalled out. It’s happened in recent games prior to Utah too. So again, not a surprise.
  • There’s also been a mythology about Lincoln Riley, mainly because people were so sick of Clay Helton. Riley is a good coach but not beyond reproach. He wasn’t coaching aggressively at the end of the game. He arrogantly decided Utah might score a TD and then would go to overtime.

So he never called timeout while Utah was burning precious seconds off the clock near the goal line. These things never bite you against the Fresno States and Stanfords but then you play a better-than-average team and boom!

  • Then, the fans. I had some on twitter telling me a couple weeks ago that USC could beat Georgia. These people see what they want to see at games. And they are clueless.
  • I said this last night: This loss isn’t that big a deal. It doesn’t matter USC lost if the Trojans win their next five games. I expect USC to win its next five games. If it fixes some of the nagging problems. But too many were getting carried away and waving a towel because USC beat a bunch of fairly mediocre teams. Now back to reality.

89 thoughts on “Sunday Buzz: Let’s Dissect USC’s Entire Performance”

  1. To be fair, the offensive line was a big part of USC gaining 555 yards against the best defense in the Pac 12. To be fair to Grinch, no one could be a world beater with the players he inherited from Helton —at least he has them fighting till the end of the game. We ALL knew going into the season that the offense would carry the day & the defense and special teams were the weak sisters. The only Big Surprise was USC couldn’t win in a shootout. Even our illustrious leader, Mister Scott Wolf, predicted we’d be winning games 76-75. I think that’s what we all thought. High scoring affairs with US coming out on top.
    #ItDidn’tTurnOutThatWayInOurFirstRealShootOut

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    1. Why was Caleb Williams crying like a bitch after the game, and why are his fingernails painted PINK? The cameras focused in on that prior to the game. 😂😂. I’m thinking dude has a little sugar in his tank 😂

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      1. I think SC team gave its all and it would be emotionally draining on top of physical…if utah had played like that vs ucla,the out come would have been different…I know little about finger nails and some people are weird…

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      2. Sorry, MG, but crying doesnt make you weak, people who hold their emotions in are the ones that are operating out of fear of showing emotions. It shows that he cares alot about winning. Do you really care about whatever his sexual preferences are? I dont. The only thing I dont like are people that have to make their sexuality into a public spectacle, which he has not.

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      3. gametv — one small point you need to consider: I didn’t write the reply you’re responding to —
        Hint: for future reference if the post contains the words bitch, dick, anus, dildo or caca —it’s somebody else having fun using one of our posters’ names.

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    2. I can only add utah got a lot of help from the pac 12 ,in particular the refs…they made up stuff to keep utah drives alive,even taking away an interception when a flag magically appears for nothing at all

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    3. Michael:
      The game plan was to stop the Ute run game and make Rising beat us with his arm. Utah had only one “go to” WR in Vele, and he was not much. We KNEW they loved to use the TE’s–witness Brad Kuithe, et al.
      I’m not sure their TE”s and WR’s could beat us. In the first half Utah had about 40 yards rushing. The INT by Bullock in the endzone was a picadore’s stab and took the crowd out of the game….

      And then…

      I think Grinch could have schemed a better pass rush and dropped Gentry a little deeper to get into the TE’s routes. But in the end, a hyped stadium and team at altitude with the Zebras working for them prevailed. I expect USC D to play very well for the next 3 games and then get gashed by UCLA. All in all, I’m still supporting Grinch.

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      1. Me too. It’s too easy to blame Grinch for Helton’s recruiting. Give him some time. He’s smart and he’s a good leader.
        Btw, over spring practice Chip told Phil Steele that his Tight End room is the deepest on his team. That doesn’t bode well for us. Add in Charbonnet & DTR….and us [maybe] missing Addison and Gentry and there’s trouble brewing on the Rose Bowl horizon. However, if we’re healthy……

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    4. The best defense in the conference doesn’t doesn’t implicitly mean said defense is actually good. It’s the winning a gold medal at the Special Olympics saying that nobody can say anymore (rightfully).

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      1. Yeah…well, Utah doesn’t just play in the pac 12 conference, pal! Look what their defense did to Ohio State and Florida…..
        #…..Uh,NeverMind…..

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  2. I guess Riley’s too smart to give out any news on Addison —but has anybody heard any remarks from the players or reporters about his condition after the game?
    Has anybody heard a peep from Folt or Bohn about the officiating? Remember we had the Pac 12 Commissioner disparaging USC the weekend before the season —- now we have his crews in charge of our destiny. Such a serious conflict of interest. Will Bohn have the balls to call it out?…..
    #…OfCourseNot

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    3. You really want to have the Chancellor/President of your school bellyache about officiating? Remember those twin back end of a horse from bel-air tech Charles Young at the Rose Bowl shrieking at a bad call on the sidelines or JD Morgan doing the same inside Pauley Pavilion?

      Be glad USC doesn’t act like that I know I am

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      1. Here’s the deal, Alv — the pac 12 refs are paid by the pac 12 which is probably gonna go under eventually because of USC & UCLA leaving —in other words, their livelihood could be in jeopardy cuz of US […and let’s face it –NO other conference is gonna pick up pac 12 officials —they’re an embarrassment to the game & everybody knows it]. Given this, SOMEBODY is gonna have to ask that USC games are officiated by outside crews — highschool refs will be a big step up.
        You can’t have the people you’re probably eventually putting outta work refereeing your games. That’s not an optimal situation.

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  3. Who are you and what have you done with Scott Wolf? Scott would never say he expects USC to win its next five games.
    If you want to really see what wrong with this blog format and you know something about programming hit CTL U on your computer then you can see who is really logged in. And why there is no defense against using someone else’s screen name. Poorly written html is the blame for this blog.

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  4. Scotty – your critique is fair and accepted.However, the short comings are not because of the scheme in large part.Riley had a very limited time to put together a serviceable roster and what we have is what he was able to assemble in that time.The achilles heel is talent.The trojans are doing it with bailing wire and band aids for now.Everybody on this blog knows that games are won in the trenches.Although the schedule is weak, I’ll still take what we have now – fewer penalties, better effort, recruiting hopes restored, etc. UCLA and Utah will graduate many players and USC will close the gap.If Grinch did have a pass rush the secondary wouldn’t have to resort to all the grabbing.If the offensive line gave Caleb more time he would be even more prolific.But if “Ifs” and “Buts” were candy and nuts – oh, what a party we’d have.Remember what Howard Cosell said to O.J. in the booth on Monday Night Football, Scott. He said, “Juice, you have a tremendous grasp on the obvious!” And for that matter, Scott – so do you.

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    1. Scott calls out these so called “fanboys”, but his expectancy of USC is on level of a fanboy himself. What LR has done with the mess he inherited has been really good.
      It’s going to take 2-3 years to develop and build a good program. Saban in his first year lost at home to Louisiana-Monroe. I don’t think LR is on the same level as Saban, but I believe he can build and actually win a National Title at USC.
      I’m sure the “fanboys” on who write Scott on Twitter do so in order to rile him up.

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      1. Wolff’s has to label anything that sees through his BS. It would be different if he was truly a critic of USC but this is the same guy who flat out lied about JT Daniels and his deal with the Helton staff. I rarely check his babble out and it’s the same crap.

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    2. ….I think the gap is already closed, though we will need to develop a group to follow this “graduating/matriculating” class.

      UCLA is doing well because of DTR playing about 50+ games under center. QB’s never have that level of experience anymore. He won’t play in the NFL. DTR has had 5 years in the Kelly system. They are good this year. Expect a drop off in 2023.

      Utah is OK. Same brand of football every year. Their defense now officially sucks. Look at OSU in the Rose Bowl, UCLA (in the Rose Bowl), and USC last night.

      The gap is already closed. This is a good program and our defense will be better this year and next.

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      1. you are correct…the defense is a group that has never played together,and has a coach they never have played for…the offense is veteran and most have played together, a lot of them have played for this coach…next year will be better.

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  5. With 4 minutes and 27 seconds and Utah with the Football at around the 25 yard line of USC I was Telling the people I was watching the football game with. Let UTAH Score a Touchdown so USC offense could get the football back with about 2 to 3 minutes left in the football game So USC Offense could get into Field Goal Range or Score a Winning Touchdown.. USC Coaching letting UTAH. Run the game Clock down to 38 seconds Left in the football game. Was It … Losing by 1 point the Blame goes on the Coaching Staff… When you’re USC Offense is Scoring on Utah Defense … All throughout the football game….

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      1. It looks like it NEVER occurred to our staff Whittingham would go for the win rather than the overtime —-even though he’s gone for 2 before in the final minute ….against us!

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  6. Blistering commentary by Wolf that you will get nowhere else but here on Inside USC– actually, it is a salient point about Wiley refusing to use his time-outs when Utah was driving for what looked like a certain inevitable touchdown to at least equal the score.

    Whether Utah tied or went ahead should have been irrelevant to the decision-making process, a team must try to win in regular time, but apparently Wiley was content to allow the clock to run out “knowing” the game was going to overtime and was shocked by the 2-pointer decision, thus leaving Wiley with his 2 time-outs but his boys a measly 40-seconds or so to counter-attack when Troy should have had about a minute-20 is unpardonable.

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    1. Riley was playing the odds –most coaches wouldn’t try what Whittingham pulled. Riley couldn’t wait for the overtime that never happened. [Reminds me of Emile Griffith saying he thought he’d come on strong after the first round of his fight with Hurricane Carter—there was no second round: Carter knocked him out in the first]…..
      P.S.
      This just in from Carol Folt:
      “In a fair and spiritual world a conference would not take revenge on a conference member that was leaving for greener pastures. I want to believe we live in such a beautiful, magical, spiritual world…
      btw, I barely graduated from U.C. Santa Barbara…”

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      2. No way our president could get into today’s U. C. Santa Barbara ….or any of the other U. C. schools…..
        #…ExceptMaybeUCLA..
        #..IHearTheyNeedTheMoney

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      3. Mike I understand your point per Pac-12 refs but the chanting we need to have a proactive school admin in the middle of this is wrong as I pointed out how that ass Young and the even bigger clown ass Morgan acted…there is a rule per NCAA basketball banning ADs from sitting on the bench during basketball games.

        UT’s win is identical to TX’s in 2005 – and who even considers TX when compiling historic legacy programs?

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    2. I knew Kyle would go for two and Kyle and I knew it would be successful. Told my wife sitting next to me the very thing. Our guys were gassed and Kyle knew it.

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  7. To quote Wolf: “These people see what they want to see at games. And they are clueless.” Does that include Wolf? I did see some great O line play, even the announcers commented how much time Caleb had at times.

    So they finally got that first loss. I am not worried about it, I didn’t think they would go to the NC anyway. Let’s see if anyone learned a lesson from it all, including the coaching staff in particular. Coaching for once in my opinion gets a low grade. Time management was not good, some play calling not timely, some adjustments not made, and then there was the officiating. USC in the end lost, and the way I saw it played out, they should have.”

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      1. MG– Here is another way of looking at the “if-but” possibilities,
        what if the plays you find disturbing were reversed in SC’s favor,
        there is no telling that Utah might have still pulled out the victory because there was plenty of time left.

        And Utah could have had more points by not fumbling on SC’s 3-yard line and not missing a field goal try.

        Anyway, I have spent much of the day in mourning, so time to move on and return to my customary mental-state of ‘living happily ever after’

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    2. To quote Wolf: “These people see what they want to see at games. And they are clueless.” Does that include Wolf? I did see some great O line play, even the announcers commented how much time Caleb had at times.

      So they finally got that first loss. I am not worried about it, but I am concerned about Caleb’s pink fingernails, is he swinging that way ? Let’s see if anyone learned a lesson from it all, including the coaching staff in particular. Coaching for once in my opinion gets a low grade, because they allowed their quarterback to throw with PINK fingernails . Time management was not good, some play calling not timely, some adjustments not made, and then there was the officiating. USC in the end lost, and the way I saw it played out, they should have.”

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    3. The O-line helped earn 550+ yards at 5000 feet of elevation against the number 19 defense in CFB.

      Enough with the O-line BS folks. They are not your problem.

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    4. Agree Steveg49, and SC should just get used to the fact that they lost (again) to a Utah team that was better coached (Whitt over Wiley) and who played better than SC, although so slightly better that it was hard to discern the difference.

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  8. This is no “dissection” of USC’s performance. It is obvious what happened last night, everybody here knows it, and everybody here has been talking about it for weeks.
    #Scottie,What’sYourDeal?

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      2. Scott:
        [In Harbaugh voice]: “What’s YOUR deal…. Why is Caleb Williams playing with PINK fingernails?” “ I smell sugar in his tank”

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  9. The defense was finally fully exposed. That’s what happens when you let the roster rot and don’t coach up players. (Thanks Helton!) The jury is still out on Grinch—he gets a pass for a few years, unless they don’t recruit great Dlinemen and defensive athletes. (And then it’s on Riley.)

    But I will say this: to win a game like that you need a little luck. But the egregious roughing call that negated the interception in the end zone was the exact opposite. Hard to wins games like that when you play within the rules and they still eff you.

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      1. I keep thinking that Whitingham has had over a decade to get a team to this point, and LR did it in a matter of months.😂😂😂. I think I just sounded like a typical USC fanboy Ass Lick… didn’t I ? 😂😂😂

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  10. I’ve stated this before on this blog, USC is no where near being a CFP playoff team because of issues on the offensive and defensive lines, and I’m sure CLR knows this. All of this goes back to the lack of recruiting quality players at those positions the last five years. One move I would like to see CLR make is to hire Coach O as d-line coach and recruiting coordinator. With his connections in the southeast he can bring in the type of lineman that would help USC compete with the elite teams.

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    1. Having Coach O again would be amazing. Not sure if it’s at all realistic but you never know. He’s kind of a Marv Goux Part II.

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      2. I agree—just not sure he’d be OK with the situation given he’s actually won a national championship as a HC.

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      1. Probably, but intriguing idea. Maybe if they already know each other, Riley might have a comfort level with bringing in Ed.

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  12. Why are you guys asking for the coach who cheated on his wife at his last job? It’s embarrassing. Hey Wolf, why? Why? Give us the why these decisions were made on behalf of USC. No one here talks about the treatment USC received before the game. The band is stuck up into the highest seats furthest away from the field. Tickets are made hard to purchase for Trojan supporters and refs who work USC practices are never allowed to work USC games on the road. Since you speak with coaches Mr. Wolf, then ask them why this conference has such a crab mentality of keeping all schools equal? It’s truly a socialist ideology of the Pac 12.

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    1. You think there shouldn’t be a level playing field for all schools? (No pun intended.) it’s football, not socialism

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  13. So please explain how a tight end make 16 key catches in a game, and basically open all the time. Are our linebackers to slow………….yes…….Were our corners, and safeties intimidated by the stud TE at Utah. Was our defensive coordinator clueless, and unable to make adjustments on the TE coverage during the game. Never seen a TE control an entire football game like he did last night. Utah, has an average offense nothing explosive yet 1 QB, and 1 TE killed the Trojans- the last time I checked we have 11 guys playing defense what the hell happened.

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    1. Like I said, this one is on Grinch when it comes to a TE destroying USC. I sure hope he gets some tough questions asked if there is one writer with the balls to ask.

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      1. Like I said, this one is on Grinch when it comes to a TE destroying USC. I sure hope he gets some tough questions asked if there is one writer with the balls to ask. And maybe next season Lincoln Riley will name me the new defensive coordinator, because I know everything

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    2. tommyd:
      Tough to watch Kincaid go off. But the rest of the team really did not contribute much. The run game yardage was accrued late in the second half. Otherwise, we were stuffing their run game. The WR’s had a few key catches.

      If I really cared, I’d rewatch the game (I can’t whilst on vacation without hulu) and tabulate how many times our D got a 3rd and long stop only to have the Zebras find a way to keep the Utah O on the field.
      The Bullock INT in the End Zone was the most egregious example.

      Anyway, Grinch is a good DC and will have us in the top 30 next year.
      BTW, USC’s OFFENSE came up from #5 to #2 in the nation after last night’s game.

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  14. Scotty, when you tell us that Lincoln Riley is just a good coach , and then tell us that we’re clueless because we don’t agree with you. The one that is clueless if you. What Riley has done coming into this mess that Hilton left us in is truly amazing. No other coach in America would have been able to do what he has done in 11 months, not Sabin, Day, or Sweeney and these are the best.

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  15. USC defense has been good at times. You can’t base much on a game played on the road in a nuthouse at high altitude. No, I don’t think that SC could beat Georgia. They’re still a year or more away. But I would probably say that they are way ahead of schedule. Even the Wolfman himself said that he expects them to win their next 5 games. That would mean that they finish the regular season 11-1. I don’t think anyone expected that. Before the season I was seeing predictions like 8-4 and 9-3. A few pundants even said 7-5.
    As far as the towels are concerned…..I was watching the Alabama-Tennessee game and they were waving the towels on the Volunteers sideline. A lot of teams do that.

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  17. The few comments Scott made are not a dissection of the full game played. Honestly, I would love to hear a real dissection from someone with real experience in coaching.

    At the beginning of the season if you were told USC would be 6-1, with last minute loss of 1 point to Utah (in Utah), are you saying you would call Riley an only “good” coach? I think people would say he was a great coach to pull that off.

    I am more concerned about Grinch based on his results at OK, than here at USC so far.

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    1. It WAS a dissection. An evil dissection. Like the ones performed in H. G. Welles’ The Island Of Doctor Moreau —where the mad doctor experimented on human beings —mainly women —making them into cats and leopards….and sometimes bears …but mainly cats and dogs ….and, luckily they ganged up on the doctor and took away his knives before he could make some new visitors who got stranded on the island into animals too…but I digress…mainly I wanted to just say it was a dissection….

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      1. Man, talk about making a short comment long! Next one take a breath and ask yourself if you are done yet. LOL

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      2. I was thinking of going on a few more paragraphs…. but I didn’t want to ruin the story for young science fiction fans….

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  18. Grinch had the majority of this year’s Oklahoma’s defense under him and struggled against the Big 12 last year. He’s working with 10 out of 33/the 3-depth chart players he brought in to play defense for him this year, year one. Anything they accomplish this year will pale in comparison to next year, unless they get more talented and fundamentally sound. The eye discipline was poor and shocking considering its the same offense as Stanford and David Shaw. Max Williams had a bad coverage game. Lee struggled in pass defense and the fact they can’t stick a defender on the receiver Kincaid is troubling. The need for small D-tackles is baffling. Bigger tackles on defense means fewer double teams. Utah constantly doubled Pili and no linebacker made the commitment to blow up the gaps and instead played read on running downs. Bottom line? Grinch Mrs to tweak his one gap philosophy. Unless Aaron Donald is on your line, you need two gap monsters to keep your backers clean and safeties mean.

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  19. And another thing! Why is Max Williams responsible for coverage on a 6’4″ tight end?!?!! Calab scared of him? 86 flips on the scrimmage? Who cares!!! Put 8 in the box and zone blitz their slow ass! It was a unimpressive defensive packages with easily picked up blitzes. Something tells me this is a football dumb team of underwear athletes who look great but slow to discern. It’s scary to see how dependent the coaches are on Gentry to align the whole defense.

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  20. Grinch’s defense gave up 562 yards of offense with only one turnover. Not going to win many games with those stats.

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  21. I normally feel angry when USC loses … especially in the Carroll years … like 13-9 UCLA in 2006 … games lost, but should’ve won. I don’t feel terrible about Utah. Bye week … let’s regroup.

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    1. Yep. That’s all that matters. If we win out we get the last laugh.
      #HopeTheTeamISAngry….
      #AndKnowsHow&WhereToChannelIt

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    2. I’m angry CRS, as the Zebras were reprehensible.
      Our D had a bunch of key stops along the way in both halves which were overturned by the Zebras.

      But, yeah. Bye-zona-Colorado–Cal. Whip some ass before 11/19.

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  22. Scott you made valid points. Time management and aggressive play calling at the wrong time was part of the problem. Another problem is the refs with the way they call PI RP Targeting giving Utah chances to keep USC offense on the sidelines. Folt and Bohn must call each remaining school and petition to have other conferences officials who will call the game correctly, this is a total conspiracy to undermine USC resurgence and a slap in the ass, for leaving the PAC12 . We must continue to mentally stay focused on our goals.

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  23. If Grinch wants a head coaching job, then he needs to get a better performance out of his backups. Injuries to starters are starting to affect team performance overall.

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  24. Hard to gripe about a Coach who gets his fellas to score 42 and gain 550 yds against a notoriously stout D which was ranked #19 prior to last night. A few offensive play calls were not great, but WTF? About 9 yards per play? I thought Riles should have let Utah score the TD with about 2.5 minutes left to play. Preserve the TO’s. Go the length of the field for the GW FG. That is what Belichick would have done.

    One T/O by this offense and a bunch of T/O by our D.

    The D stopped the run game for 3 QTR’s. Had we built the lead we were working on, the run game would have never materialized. Kyle loves the run game. We knew he loves his TE pass game and we failed to come up with a few tweaks to get some stops on that part. The D frequently had Rising at 3rd and long and came up with a BUNCH of key stops–only to have the Zebra intervene. I don’t recall much blitzing in either half, and dropping 7 sure did not slow down Rising/Kincaid. Blitz?

    Kyle used to be proud of his S/T–his S/T are horrible and ours are improving. They had one good punt return which really hurt us.

    Our coach is better, our players play better and we are the better team.
    Their fans might be better at home?

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    1. “Their fans might be better”… Oh, you think. Utah’s fans at the game acted as if they were auditioning for a role in “Friday the 13th” while SC’s sun-basked fans act as if they are at the opera.

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  25. It’s funny how wolf says that people see what they want to see – so says the “Glass Half Empty” guy. Take a look at yourself, Scotty.That is, if you can see your own reflection! HaHa!!

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    1. Scott not only sees what HE wants to see ….he tries to get us to see only what HE wants to see….
      #YaGottaHandItToHim….
      #OneInAMillionTypeIndividual

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  26. The P-12 could not afford letting SC win this game for TV ratings. That is all the game was about. I did not even watch or listen to game because I figured out the outcome beforehand.

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  28. I am just puzzled by the defens4. What do we need.? Better coaching, talent
    or what? Please let me know. They appeared to be out of position on that 2 point conversion. Your thoughts.

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