Morning Buzz: How Toxic Is USC?

A fan yelled “worst SC coach ever” toward Clay Helton as he appeared on the Trojans Live radio show at the Lab restaurant next to the Galen Center on Wednesday. Another group chanted, “Fire Helton.”

Imagine how toxic the atmosphere will be at the Coliseum next season?

It’s not just Helton. You think Lynn Swann minded skipping the recruiting dinner on Wednesday where boosters might want to ask him some real questions?

Swann makes a point of not putting himself in situations where he does not interact with the public. He is well known for not wanting to sign autographs, even at the NFL Hall of Fame ceremonies where players routinely do it.

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47 thoughts on “Morning Buzz: How Toxic Is USC?

  1. Scott —We love you —-but why would you say Swann makes a point of NOT going to events where he CAN’T interact with the public if, in fact, he HATES interacting with the public? Shouldn’t he make a point of not going to events where he CAN interact with the public? [Which sure as hell seems to be the case —nobody claims to have seen him on campus….ever]….
    BTW —a special shout out to YeaTeam —he points out, in a previous post, that Helton actually might come from Bizarro World (a world in which everything is reversed).
    This theory explains each and every one of Clay’s post game pressers.
    #”MeHappyWeLost!”
    #”ToaGood.MMMMM!”

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    1. MG: Regarding Swann, it’s amazing how he can pick and choose the events he wishes to eschew. The last time I checked, he’s the AD for SC and the presumption is that he is expected to show for all of the events relative to the athletic programs (unless he’s sick, and I don’t mean sick of the job…haha). It’s quite apparent that “accountability” is nowhere in his background and/or vocabulary. Not to rain on the All Pro’s parade, but I think he must have lost those things called “cajones” either during his years with the pros, or at Augusta trying to bring his golf handicap down to level where he can say justifiably “he’s on top of his game”…

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      1. He’s been a minority hire aside from football his whole life, all the boards he sits or has sat on was because of his football fame and skin color, not his brains

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  2. Clay Helton seems like a hybrid of Toby from “The Office,” Ned Flanders, and that annoying coworker, who irritatingly parrots the company line without thought.

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  3. My guess is that USC has never not been toxic to Scott Wolf. (Proper use of double negative).

    As for widespread toxicity, not so much.

    Dysfunctional. Try disfunctional. More accurate.

    You’re welcome.

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      1. Arturo
        Barajas
        A leaky butthole.
        “Man, I ate Mexican food earlier and now I have a fiery Barajas.”
        #butthole] [poop

        On second thought hold the burrito I ordered.

        fitting name for you leaky “butthole”

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  4. My guess is that USC has never not been toxic to Scott Wolf. (Proper use of double negative).

    As for widespread toxicity, not so much.

    Dysfunctional. Try disfunctional. More accurate.

    You’re welcome.

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    1. And look who the current President is, even though she’s currently just a place holder, it’s not our dad’s USC these days

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    2. USC economist here. Do NOT soil Art Laffer by applying actual science to what Swanny does.

      Arrogant Cal people. The worst kind of self described hippie intellectuals.

      Get a haircut and put some damned shoes on.

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      1. Trojan83: I need to show that post to my better half who is a “Cal girl”. I’m sure she won’t chuckle like I did😎

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    1. Oh, really? Cohen has said that she only wants coaches who demand the best every day and make sure that student athletes “do everything right, starting with the little things.” Now tell me: what percentage chance—given the present circumstances— does she have of being invited to take over USC’s Athletic Department?
      #TryZeroPercent

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      1. MG: With all due respect, Helton needs to relinquish that seat ( and all seats for that matter) and walk away from our respectable (at one time) institution of higher education…

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      2. drjess: is it okay if he leaves —with a shred of dignity —-at the end of a winning season led by Harrell…?
        #I’mJustAsking,MyFriend

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      3. Ha! Like Button hit!

        Michael, you mean the back row, right by the flight attendant’s food service carts and the latrines in tourist class? That far back?

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      4. trojan67 —I think you can still hear a person’s voice from there….
        #…MaybeMoreLikeStrappedToLandingWheels…..

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  5. I don’t know if Lynn Swann is naive as he appears to be from the fans point of view , or he’s really setting Clay Helton up to fall flat on his face ?

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    1. Helton has already fallen on his face numerous times. I wonder if it stipulates in the contract extension that Swann gave Helton how many more times he can afford to fall on his face.

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      1. Thank you, karma. All 20th century law students struggled with this concept —but you’ve just given us a lucid example for the rationale behind The Rule Against Perpetuity…….

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    2. Hey Fred: I think you are spot on. Not to do a play on words, but Helton has fallen on his face so many times while at SC, there’s no hope for him to “save face”…

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    3. I think Lynn is a fine human being and great athlete but not a good AD. Plus he has no experience in the position. I think he has set himself up for failure. Too bad because I like him.

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      1. That sounds fair at first blush, Ken —but, I’m wondering, who told Swann that being A. D. wouldn’t require some knowledge of running an Athletic Department?

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      2. KenH: Good points made. BTW, I’m glad to know that there are some people you like. It’s fine if you don’t like my sorry ass (Lol)…

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  6. SCooter,

    I guess you did not attend any football games at the Coliseum let alone on the road during the 2018 season, is that correct? I also am going to guess that you have not been to a basketball game during the 2018-2019 season, is that correct? Because if you had, you would have seen Swann at the games. I walk by him many a time at the bball game this year. The thing though, I keep walking not wanting to talk to him. BTW, he does take photos and doesn’t charge for them either.

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      1. Michael,

        Yes, people are talking to him and they are walking up to him to either say hi or ask a general question. People have been very polite to him and I have not heard one heckling yell at him. People are on their best behavior with him. That is a tribute and respect to the office of the AD. he sits with his wife, when she goes. Then he either has Steve Lopez or other guests sit next to him.

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  7. Sure Helton underachieved last year. But he doesnt deserve to be heckled on our own campus. Maybe heckled at a football game, but away from the football field people should treat him more respectfully than what Scott has described. Really dismayed to hear what happened.

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    1. Nice sentiments. Sometimes we start having so much fun taking cheap shots at Helton that we actually forget he’s a human being doing the very best he can. I wish him well. (But) I still can’t get quite get over the idea of him leaving Callaway in place after the Cotton Bowl—-or refusing to see that Toa was singlehandedly losing games. He did bring a bit of this down on himself.

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    2. You guys want Coach Helton to fail.

      Hell no. The PAC loves Helton. I hear that the PAC wants another 5yr extension.

      #getOnItSwann.

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  8. I don’t think it’s a cheap shot to question the mentality of s coach who stubbornly refused to go in another direction in regards to the position of center or quarterback. In both cases the player in place was not the best qualified to play. This was pointed out by media outlets and fans alike. Yet Helton ignored the facts and fans. It was almost like he did it to spite the world.
    People point out that McKay flubbed his early years, but he didn’t have quality players. Once he got better players things changed. Helton has flopped with some of the best. No excuse for him.

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    1. I mainly agree. And most of the criticisms of Helton found here are fair (except some of mine).
      #J..T.MaySurpriseYou,Though

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    2. You are absolutely right. People comparing Helton to McKay are preposterous. In his third year, McKay coached an undefeated national champion juggernaut (relative to the era), noted for innovation (the I formation and willingness to pass) and debunking the then (unfortunately also now) widespread belief that west coast teams weren’t physically on par with teams from other regions of the country (Woody Hayes supposedly once said that California kids would bleed orange juice if you hit them hard enough). They shut out Notre Dame, and were it not for easing up on Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl late, would be remembered as one of the great all-time squads in the history of college football. Does any of this even remotely sound like something that the name Clay Helton would figure in?

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  9. Heckling someone out in public is a disgrace. We mostly disagree with Helton. However, if I were to see him, I would only wish him the best. He does need our support when we see him in public and at the the games. It is totally chicken to boo him when u see him. However, he does need to improve or unfortunately he will have to move on. But support him if u see him. Thank u

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