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Clay Helton Reminds USC Another Time It Was 3-3

Clay Helton said on “Trojans Live” that he asked the players in a meeting today to stand up if they played in the Rose Bowl.

He then asked them what their record was after six games? The answer: 3-3.

Helton then mumbled something about the Pac-12 South. But he didn’t tell the Trojans that USC did not win the Pac-12 South the last time it went to the Rose Bowl. It finished behind Colorado.

It went to the Rose Bowl because Washington got into the College Football Playoff and the Rose Bowl wanted USC over Colorado (big surprise!).

It’s doubtful the Pac-12 sends a team to the College Football Playoff so Helton might actually need to win the South Division this year. He also forgot to mention he had Sam Darnold that season too.

20 thoughts on “Clay Helton Reminds USC Another Time It Was 3-3”

    1. I always hate to see clips like that (1) because I feel sorry for Clay and (2) because I don’t like the idea of the players seeing Clay in that state.
      #SomebodyToldClayToBiteHisLipWheneverHeFeltLikeOpeningMouth

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    2. i feel no sympathy. this is a great program. he needs to get a clue as to how to help the program succeed, as it should. or, he should step aside. he’s wasting our time, the time of the students and the time and talent of the players. and he’s made millions in the meantime.

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  3. I thought Slovis looked really good and really poised on Saturday. I know that not everyone sees things the same, but you have to be able to see the difference in talent between Slovis and Fink. Forget about the better motion, touch and strength, just look at the quality and flight of the ball he throws. It’s frustrating to me that it’s not immediately clear to all Trojan fans that there’s a huge difference in talent and upside. This is especially true given that one is a freshman and the other a redshirt junior. I’m not even talking about seeing them in practice or stats from camp or anything, just one pass will tell you that there’s no contest with regard to talent. The same was true (to a lesser extent) with JT and Sears. I understand that people are more open to a mobile QB these days and I’m not kicking them out of bed, but I’m still judging QBs primarily based on the quality of their arms. I hope Kedon’s performance against ND put any questions about who the starter should be and should’ve been to bed.

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    2. Clay —Notwithstanding my friend Owns’ snores (which I don’t understand—unless he’s just being impish —which wouldn’t be like him), I saw what you saw (and, apparently, what Harrell saw in spring and fall): Kedon is our coolest, gamest & most accurate QB. If he can stay healthy for the remainder of the season (a big “if” due to his style of play combined with our on again, off again o-line), I think we’ll do okay.
      #ItWouldBeGreatToBeatOrgeon(WhichCouldBeTop10ByNov2nd)….

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      1. If Clay is back (which would mean the new Athletic Director is brain dead) it’s J. T (for the same reasons that Toa started at center and Velus continues to return kicks). If it’s a coach named “somebody else” —it’s Kedon.

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      2. It’ll be an interesting question, but we won’t know until we see what they look like next year. It’s not a question that can be answered now and I’m glad I’m not the one who will have to answer it next year. As far as Slovis goes, with the injury, one bad road start, one good road start, his season is just really starting in my mind. The next 6 games represent an opportunity for him to make his case for the starting job next year. It’s entirely possible that we end up seeing a QB transfer next year as we have to incorporate the realization of increased player mobility in the way that we consider things now. Also, if USC fans have their way, there will be a completely different staff with a different offense next year. I’m not trying to duck the question, but there are too many variables and I haven’t seen enough of either in this offense.

        My post really goes back to the seeding of the QB’s before and during this season and the fact that I agree with the way the coaches did it. I think Slovis is bigger, stronger, younger, more mobile and I think he might be a little more accurate too. So, that would imply a higher ceiling, but there’s more to it than just the physical things. The reason I separate JT and Slovis from Fink and Sears is because the former have pro arms and the latter don’t. The latter both run better, but neither runs at the level of other QB’s we see around the country who are known as mobile QB’s. If I put a premium on running ability, Fink and Sears wouldn’t even be the best college QB’s in town. I think the holy grail is the QB who can throw like Aaron Rodgers and run like Lamar Jackson. The problem is that the guy who can throw like Rodgers will never fully develop his running ability and a guy who can run like Jackson will never fully develop his passing ability. There’s some kind of transition going on between pocket passers and mobile QB’s, and while I love being able to scramble and keep plays alive, I’m still looking for arm quality in a QB first.

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    1. They all made Clancy Pendergast and Clay Helton look a lot more competent than they are that season with their playmaking. The Rose Bowl should have been the last straw and Pendergast should have been let go after failing to stop Penn State from scoring 49 straight points. Wow. I will never get how both of them are still in charge.

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