Not that it wasn’t obvious previously, but the NCAA continues to show that it went too far with USC’s penalties more than 10 years ago.
Tennessee committed more than 200 individual infractions but got no bowl ban and fined $8 million by the NCAA. The Vols will also have a 28-scholarship reduction.
But Tennessee has already self-imposed 18 scholarships, a number that covers the past two seasons and the upcoming one. So it will only need to reduce two more scholarships over the next five years. Five years!
This all sounds like a slap on the wrist compared to USC, which had a two-year bowl ban and was docked 30 scholarships over just three years.
That’s why Tennessee coach Josh Heupel told ESPN it was a “huge relief” not to face a bowl ban. That’s what really hurts recruiting and lowers the morale of a program. The other penalties get forgotten by the players they are not as tangible.
Has any school faced penalties like USC since 2010?
The NCAA has retreated ever since the USC case. Isn’t 200 infractions a lack of institutional control?
It’s great the current Tennessee players are not being punished by a bowl ban. Too bad the USC players affected by the bowl ban can’t say the same thing.
InsideUSC with Scott Wolf 
The NCAA has always looked the other way when it came to the SEC. Why do you think that the SEC has won 13 out of the last 17 NC’s? They’ve been cheating like hell for years with no response from the NCAA. It is and has been a corrupt organization for years. What other organization would hire Paul Dee as the head of its rules committee after being the AD of Miami where they broke every rule under the sun.
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Right Parcel. My favorite was Cam Newton. Caught with a stolen laptop at Florida. Later placed on academic probation. Was stuck behind Tim Tebow. Decided to transfer and was offered $180,000 from Mississippi State and his father replied “I’m sorry, no, the Auburn offer is too much to pass up.” Was able to lead Auburn to a Natty and a Heisman. I don’t recall any sanctions. Meanwhile, we got a 30 player scholarship reduction and no bowl games because an agent paid rent on Reggie’s parents home for less than a year without the knowledge of the university.
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Part of the reason for that is that for a long time the head of the rules committee in the NCAA was also the commissioner of the SEC. If that ain’t a conflict of interest, then I don’t know what is. His job as the commissioner is to promote progress in the SEC. His job as the head of the rules committee is to hinder the progress of any school that cheats.
To this day, Bush hasn’t got his trophy back. The NCAA is still penalyzing him for something that he did that is legal today. Reggie is still being penalyzed for breaking a rule that the NCAA is admitting was a bad rule. SC is no longer under sanctions but Reggie still is.
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I feel at some point in time, Reggie will get his Heisman back. It might take a turnover of the committee members.
Then again, Pete Rose is still locked out of the Hall of Fame
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It’s hilarious how one sided this was- and proof it was a personal vendetta by the “good ol boys” who couldn’t stand SC’s / the West’s dominance. They got together and shut USC down. Good to know that piece of shi$ Dee is 6 feet underground for his part in this mess. Took 10 years off of SC’s recruiting .
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Documents have surfaced to prove how corrupt the NCAA was with respect to the Bush investigation. Why was Paul Dee allowed to run this investigation when he could not keep his own house in order? It’s my understanding, the NCAA never interviewed the Bush family. If it wasn’t for Todd McNair’s lawsuit, a lot of information would still be unavailable to the public. Perhaps USC should have challenged the penalties based on the precedent of leniency with other schools and or conferences. The link is a good read
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Here’s the link: https://collegead.com/unsealed-emails-show-usc-football-investigation-badly-mishandled-ncaa/
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Great article. It really is an unfair world.
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Yep — NCAA made up the rules as they went when it came to USC. But guess what? There is a remedy available to institutions injured by governing boards operating without or in excess of their jurisdiction —a writ of prohibition. Pat Haden, a “lawyer”, let the NCAA Board of Appeals fuck him up the ass.
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You and I have spoken on this very subject numerous times. Pat basically bent over and said, thank you NCAA may I have another. I don’t recall if there were any statements, on record or made in public, as to why Pat didn’t challenge the NCAA’s outcome of the investigation. Perhaps it does haunt Pat that he didn’t do more in the heat of the moment, we will never know
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Gabby,
Pat said at the time, “It’s best we just move on.” The coward’s reply.
[As for the “we’ll never know how he feels now” —maybe the fact he never makes an appearance of any kind in public is a measure of how he feels about himself].
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LIKED!……—maybe the fact he never makes an appearance of any kind in public is a measure of how he feels about himself].
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But it is now 13 years later and we haven’t totally “moved on” yet. There are still a lot of recruits out there who are still not totally convinced that SC is back.
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When you hear of the slap on the wrist Tennesse just received it makes it harder to move on!
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If I vaguely remember right, North Carolina should have also been hit by big time sanctions but all they got was a slap on the wrist
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I’ve always wondered why SC just gave in and didn’t sue the NCAA like other schools did. Maybe giving the NCAA free rein to destroy SC’s program is what some of the administrators(like Max Nakias) wanted…..the beat down of SC’s football program.
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It was convenient for Max to point the finger at the NCAA for the demise of the football program. Why be the bad guy when you don’t have to.
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3 bad guys in the last 12 years: 1) Max Nakias 2) Pat Haden 3) Lynn Swann.
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Flashback
‘Ol Mule Shoe’s Ladies of Troy worst nightmare comes true, ‘Ol Mule Shoe’s boyfriend Alex Grinch is coming back.
That’s the word the Ladies of Troy received shortly after the most embarrassing humiliating loss in USC Trojan Football History when the Ladies of Troy, ‘Ol Mule Shoe and his boyfriend Alex Grinch were run out the building in the Cotton Bowl by a lowly, almost FCS quality Tulane team made up almost entirely of walk ons and a few 3 Star players
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I don’t usually agree with Tebowobama but I have to admit, This time he has definitely stumbled onto the truth
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So far I agree with almost everything that LR has done and also the way he has done it with one exception….He kept Alex Grinch. That was a mistake.
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I think Taylor Tatum and Deuce Robinson should seriously consider giving up baseball and just giving their whole attention to football. They may like baseball but apparently, these guys aren’t as good as they think that they are. There were 20 rounds in the baseball draft….614 players. Those were the ones that they really considered.
But there was actually 88 rounds. I looked up to round 35 which was 1050 players. Then I got tired of looking. I can tell you for a fact that they were not drafted in the first 35 rounds.
These guys are really good football players and they’re apparently not all that great in baseball. It’s hard to excel in two sports. Bo Jackson did it because Bo was great in football and great in baseball. These two guys may be great in football but they are not great in baseball. They need to set priorities.
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SC is too committed to Texas RB’s. They are saying that if they can’t get Tatum, they’re going after a Texas back by the name of Derrick McFall. The kid is 5’10” and 175 pounds. Why go after him when you have a great back(Nate Frazier) who is 5’1″ and 208 right in your backyard. The kid has virtually every big school in the country going after him. He runs hard. He is fast(10.58 in the forty). He’s a great blocker. He’s a good receiver. The kid can do everything.
SC has offered him but has not persued him much. It’s almost as if they don’t want him. If Tatum decides to go to Oklahoma, I’d take a better look at this kid. Maybe the fact that Tatum didn’t get drafted at all will convince him that baseball isn’t all that important at.
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Parcel: You say Nate Frazier is 5’1 tall, weighs 208, and runs a 10.58 forty. Sounds like short, fat, and slow. Are you confusing Nate with Sandy Barbour.
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10.58 in the 100 meters is not slow by any means. He’s not 5’1”. He’s 5’11”. My mistake(printing error). 5’11” , 208 and 10.58 in the 100 meters is not short, fat and slow. It’s the perfect size for a running back. He’s small enough(height-wise) so that he can hide behind those huge O-Lineman. They don’t see him until he has darted past them. Barry Sanders was 5’8″ and 203. Emmit Smith was 5’9″ and 221. Walter Payton was 5’10” and 200. Ladainian Tomlinson was 5’10” and 215. Marshall Faulk was 5’10” and 211. Earl Campbell was 5’11” and 232.
I could be wrong about this guy but I think that he will be a really good RB at the college level. The big schools are all going after him. SC has offered him but for some reason, they haven’t really persued him in a big way.
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Perhaps the kid gave USC some feedback we are not privy to…just a thought!
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Or maybe they are too fixated on Taylor Tatum(and maybe they really think that they can still get him) that they don’t want to appear to be giving up on Tatum. Maybe if Tatum commits to Oklahoma, they will take a closer look at Frazier. It all depends upon what McDonald (the RB coach) thinks of him.
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Whoever they get down the road he needs to be able to pound the rock between the tackles. I look at Raleek and still can’t define what his position is!
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Raleek is a lesser version of Reggie Bush and Ladainian Tomlinson…..at this point, a far lesser version….like not even in the same universe. Maybe that will change in the future……I don’t know. All those guys could be a big part of your running and passing game.
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The verdict is still out on Raleek. There were just too many negative plays, then he flashes with an ankle-breaking run. I guess the pass protection(not sure why Riley would count on him to protect Caleb) and consistency are not there yet. He has time on his side. I have heard that Lloyd has good pass-catching ability out of the backfield.
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Nate Frazier is a great blocker. Usually you have to teach a high school RB how to block in the backfield to pick up the blitzing LB’s and protect the QB. Not this guy. He can block. Like I said before. He’s not 175 pounds. This guy has a body on him. He’s just as big as some of those LB’s.
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That’s very encouraging comments about Fraizer. I recall back in the day, PC said, some backs are not getting on the field because their pass blocking is a liability.
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I really like how mean your reply is, Plow Horse.
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Thank you MG for acknowledging my “mean” post. And I would be remiss if I didn’t say back at you for this gem: “Pat Haden, a “lawyer”, let the NCAA Board of Appeals fuck him up the ass.”
Of course with “Palm Springs Pat”, I am not sure whether to take you comment literally or figuratively. How many men where on the Board of Appeals? There is no such confusion with you telling Paul Dee to go suck off the devil. You are on fire today, my friend. It’s a good thing. Proper decorum is generally boring.
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I truly love & respect your reply….[and all the criticism implicit in it]!
#Sincerely…
#Untoppable
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Tatum is still in high school and not available to draft. Next year will be his first eligible year.
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Maybe I’m wrong about Tatum. I don’t follow college baseball that close to tell you how good these players really are. But Deuce can’t be all that great. With all of his recognition as a great athlete, you would think that someone would take a chance on him if he showed any kind of promise.
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Maybe baseball did not want to take a chance on guys who are football bred
The Vols’ lost 18 scholies the past 2-years, I would call that severe punishment
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After NIL, the playoffs and the transfer change…….the NCAA is a big joke for the power 5 level.
College football is now officially minor league football with college sponsors. The amateur idea is all in the trash can.
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True, Flintstone, but I noticed the college football fan base didn’t care that its game turned into a semi-pro league, Trojan football was at an alltime high in popularity
And allow me to caw over this continuing complaining about how SC was
railroaded by the (SEC) NCAA because of Bush. Yes, it was unfair and
undoubtedly had something to do with bringing ‘fat’ SC football
down a peg or two.
But don’t let the yesterdays take up too much time of the todays
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It should be commended that Lane Kiffin was able to do as much as he did with the team he had despite all those sanctions he had to deal with.
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Kiffiin was not ready to be a HC. He got by but did not excel until he spent some time with Saban and finally matured. Now he is doing solid and still has a great sense of humor about life and the profession he is in. Of course he had a horrible AD in Haden.
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Pete’s basketball buddy Kiffin took a preseason #1 team to 7-6 and a loss to Georgia Tech in the Sun Bowl and was tarmacked after the ASU humiliation the next season.
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How convenient for you to forget the 2011 season. USC ended the season ranked No. 6 in the AP Poll with a 10–2 record and finished first in the Pac12 southern division.
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It figures a wanna be like you who knows less than zero about any subject would be a Suckiffian apologist. How convenient for you to forget Kiffin’s record of failing upward:
Lane Kiffin’s Head Coaching Record
Year Team Record
2007 Raiders 4-12
2008 Raiders 1-3
2009 Tennessee 7-6
2010 USC 8-5
2011 USC 10-2
2012 USC 7-6
2013 USC 3-2
Kiffin was so bad Haden had to tarmack him after this loss:
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We all know Kiffin continued to fall toward for many years, He’s matured into one of the top offensive minds in college football. I have yet to see you post anything intellectually compelling related to football. Just the usual Biden dog and pony show. Poor gotroll continues to tread water with no shore insight. Have a great day and leave me out of it!
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PS…..outside of the SMU death penalty, Kiffin was dealing with the most severe sanction in the history of the NCAA. I applauded the guy for having the balls to take the challenge.
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Kiffin was literally destined to fail with the sanctions at hand…. How did Haden not give the guy time to rebuild and stay the course after the most severe sanctions since the death penalty when he & Orgeron were still bringing in the local talent and fielded a competitive team.
Instead they chose Stark who was battling his own demons and then ended up going with the disaster that was Helton.
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From Sark to Helton was definitely a dark era in USC football. Sam offered a ray of light.
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More lies and myths from Cowardly Gabby. Kiffin was not dealing with anything because Pat Haden had appealed the sanctions until 2011 and Kiffin had signed 31 players in 2011 and had 75 players on the roster when the season began in 2012. USC was allowed to sign no more than 15 players for its 2012, 2013 and 2014 recruiting classes but were going to have a small recruiting class in 2012 regardless.
Sark and Hugs were the one most affected by the sanctions.
You are as convincing as The Nibbler In Chief denying he is a pedo.
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We all know that Kiffin recruited 31 players in 2011 and had a 75 player roster as he began 2012 as preseason #1 so claiming he didn’t have enough players or enough skill players and stars is simply historically inaccurate.
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I think Kiffin was given the job to save the recruiting class that year. He was unfortunately a little immature and cut loose (unlike Helton) without getting a chance to mature into what he is today.
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Agree, history will look very positive on Lane.
Probably replaces Saban when the old man retires.
Wish he was more mature at the USC (deflategate, bubble screens etc).
I just cannot comprehend how he divorces Layla.
At least Andy is still married.
Thanks Enfield.
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Kiffin went 10-2 in 2011 with sanctions at hand and nothing more than first string guys with no depth behind them. Had USC stayed the course with Kiffin he would have had Orgeron as an assistant head coach pumping in the 5 stars under Kiffins leadership and there is no telling where we would be today with the Kiffin & Orgeron tandem.
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What the NCAA did to us was insane and grossly unfair. The process was dragged on for years and years for maximum destructive effect. The other schools in the PAC-12 sat gleefully on the sidelines and cheered the whole tar and feather spectacle. The net result was that the PAC-12, without the marquee national power of USC went full throttle down the Highway to irrelevance. Miami, at the time, had much worse infractions. South Carolina basketball had academic and athletic scandals involving bogus classes “taught” by a booster. Florida State had a shoplifting QB, etc. Now SC and UCLA are headed out of the conference and the rest of the schools will be de facto irrelevant.
By the way – the NCAA should give Reggie Bush his Heisman back. Though I think it was an incredibly selfish thing for him to refuse to man up and take responsibility for his family’s actions. He let his teammates down and his school down by not taking responsibility. Now the courts have decided that players should be allowed to benefit from their NIL.
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You do understand the ncaa has nothing, zip zero, nada, to do with the Heisman. It is 100% up to the Heisman committee to reinstate Reggie.
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More proof this story Pac 12 and SC were Enemy No 1 for yrs by marxist CFB including rankings conspiracy that’s existed to make sure few/no Pac 12 teams ever stay highly ranked for long to get into NC Game back in the day or recent yrs The 4-Team ranking scam/ensuing playoff
cuz Bias Corrupt East Coast CFB Institutions n MSM are the Org’d Crime mobsters and why SC/Ruins left for Big10 cuz if u cant beat em, join em
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Reggie take responsabilidades For HIS Selfish Step Dad’s crimes? Was there ever a nexus proven that Reggie colluded with his stepdad?
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Mark P.: He signed a contract with a sports agent before his junior season. You can’t do that and maintain amateur status. The agent paid the rent on his parents’ home. That is the nexus. Reggie never denied these facts. He later reached a settlement with the agent after he breached his first contract and signed with another agent.
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Hey, Plow: U say Reggie never denied, but the Ncaa to convict at that time without due process re the nexus StepDad’s rent benefit and Reggie collusion?
Sounds anti Constitution-ist. Convict without all evidence, Q/A and CrossExam?
Marxism which is where we now are with our Elist Leftist Govt Overlords. Same thing in Ncaa.
Ncaa then post-Bush goes soft on their homeBoy schools in recent times, their favored conf schools with their own corrupt activity on its face, again shows a multi-tiered justice system in all aspects of society today. Its who u know and how much have u donated?
Need to clean govt house/Ed Institutions in all aspects. Corruption/Favoritismo is infectionally rampant
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It’s been consistent on both sides of the aisle, right?
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You love your dual justice under the Senile Joe Dictatorship, Cowardly Gabby.
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No nexus was ever proven. The NCAA actually said they “inferred a connection.” wtf?! Can you imagine a statement that weak coming outta a real evidentiary hearing? Reggie couldn’t cross examine the witnesses against him, he wasn’t given notice of the “evidence” being presented at the hearing and the witnesses testifying on his behalf weren’t considered “trustworthy” by the Board of Appeals [you know, not sterling examples of truth and honesty like the ONE witness against him]……
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Truly a time of reflection where we can now see how far back this current state of govt corruption goes by using elitist Ncaa’s corruption timeline in Ncaa CFB as an example and judge how deep a black hole of corruption this country is in currently and that MSM relies upon to continue to fool the avg Joe public who doesnt follow any of these 1000s examples of public corruption and can only reply to avoid embarrassment by saying OH, IT’S CONSPIRACY THEORY
Breathtaking, worrisome times!
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Whine Baby Whine.
Reggie “I saws the money and I tooks it” Bush is lousy, two-bit cheat, who threw his FB TEAM under the NCAA sanctions bus so his deadbeat parents could live, “la dolce vita,” in a 50K a month, San Diego home.
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ALL my neighbors rebut every new corruption revelation with “it’s a conspiracy theory!”
btw, I wouldn’t be so revolted by Biden if he actually believed in Marxism and ran on being a Marxist. Nobody would have voted for him but, at least, he’d go down on principle —I could even respect him for that. But that’s not what he did. He took actions, not based on principle, in order to grease his own palm. He sold out his country for money. He’s bought and paid for. The emails Hunter sent to his Burisma pals —which contained classified information on FUTURE United States’ trade deals— is all the proof anyone needs on the issue of Biden family corruption.
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More love for Paul Dee…..Dee met his maker(devil) soon after…karma
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/821653-paul-dee-biggest-hypocrite-in-sports-a-usc-perspective
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Bye, Paul…
#..HaveFunSuckingOffTheDevil
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Wow, things getting heated around here. As you all know the Classy Cadre filed an Amicus Curiae brief with the NCAA supporting the Desth Penalty for SC. We shrugged and accepted the findings and GOT ON with our lives. Can’t you all do the same?
#LetItGoAlready
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The SEC has been paying players for years. Can we just call out Paul Dee, that was done because USC was dominating recruiting and on the field like no other. This is the same old bs, remember Bama got the same treatment. Bama came up after Dee taking down SC. Karma is muther and all schools who paid players before NIL, should be punished. Hey Congress or DOJ make a bill or review the terms of these sanctions made by corrupt universities to create a new model so this type of recruiting will cease and desists. Hey LR send a cease and desists letter to NCAA infraction committee. Stop all petty ass sanctions made by SEC teams.
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Reggie Bush was taking money from Mike Ornstein. The NCAA was too stupid to prove that and decided to punish Todd McNair because they couldn’t catch Bush. Joe McKnight started doing the same thing as Reggie Bush. The car McKnight received was the tip of the iceberg.
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RIP JOE!. I will never forget your courageous performance on the road against Ohio St.
Reggie turned up one day at practice with a customized old Chevy Impala, interesting!
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This World I agree in part of your analysis but all blue bloods have to do to keep the edge of course. Nothing has changed back in 1982, BB FB players signed and got paid. SC got more sanctions than other colleges that was down right horrible.
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Not worse that the University of Washington in 1993. Up in Seattle, Husky fans I know call what happened to USC “karma” for participating in the punishment.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/580881-usc-sanctions-unjust-penalties-against-uw-a-decade-ago-might-force-ncaas-hand#:~:text=Included%20in%20the%20penalties%20against,a%20two%2Dyear%20probationary%20period.
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Last World. Karma is NIL destroying the cabal called the NCAA and permanently ruining the concept of amateurism that relies on mediocre men to profit off the lives of people who lose their ability to contribute to society without compensation. Chickens coming home to roost. The idea that morons like Tommy Tubberville and Demonic Joel Mancini will save the and keep mediocre men in charge of college football is laughable. I offer a poisonous chalice to the banal circus that didn’t learn the lesson of Steve Prefontane, even given a 40+ year opportunity to do so.
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