USC-Stanford Has Had Its Bitter Moments

What happens to the USC-Stanford rivalry? When will the teams play again?

This was at one time a heated, bitter rivalry. So let’s review some of it.

A fight broke out at the 1965 game.

John McKay couldn’t stand Stanford coach John Ralston.

“He felt they were a little arrogant,” long-time USC assistant coach Dave Levy told me. “Stanford gave him the needle. He used to say, `I like John Ralston when we beat them. I don’t like him when we lose to them.’ ”

McKay’s ire reached a peak in the early 1970’s when he said after a game, “I’d like to have beaten them by 2,000 points. They have no class.”

That led to a priceless cartoon above from the Stanford Daily the following year, which shows USC leading Stanford, 1,992-0, and McKay telling Pat Haden if the Trojans score on the final play, “We go for two.”

The feud with Ralston even continued when McKay went to the NFL in 1976. McKay was in his first season coaching the expansion Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Ralston coached the Denver Broncos.

The Broncos won, 48-13, and McKay refused to shake hands with Ralston. McKay accused Denver of running up the score.

“I have been in the other position a lot more than that horse’s ass,” McKay said of Ralston. “I don’t like any part of him. His day is coming.”

Ralston denied running up the score: “I guess John has forgotten about some of those games when his USC teams pounded on my Stanford bunch and on other Pacific Coast Conference opponents. I can’t ever remember him taking out O.J. (Simpson) when he had us on the run.”

  • This is the 1970 game, where John Vella tries to stop Stanford All-American Jim Plunkett. Vella moved to offensive tackle the following season and became an All-American.
  • With 13 seconds left, Sam Tsagalakis kicked a 38-yard-field goal to give the No. 17-ranked Trojans a 23-20 victory over No. 11-ranked Stanford in 1953. It was just the second game-winning field goal in USC history.
Sam Tsagalakis carried by teammates after game-winning FG vs. Stanford

USC coach Jess Hill said Tsagalakis was crying at halftime because he missed an extra point in the first half that accounted for the tie score (20-20) late in the game.

USC trailed 20-13, but QB George Bozanic threw a 26-yard TD pass to wide receiver Tom Nickoloff that tied the score.

Stanford recovered a fumble in USC territory with two minutes left and might have won but Ron Miller intercepted a pass and returned it 50 yards to the Stanford 20, which set up the field goal.

About a week after kicking the game-winning field goal against Stanford in 1953, Tsagalakis was such a big star he got taken to Paramount Studios to meet King Paul of Greece.

  • On a side note, two weeks earlier, after USC beat Cal, Miller went on a blind date with fellow USC student, Diane Disney, the daughter of Walt Disney. They were married in 1954 and Miller became CEO of the Walt Disney Co. from 1980-84.

40 thoughts on “USC-Stanford Has Had Its Bitter Moments

  1. I was at the 1970 game on the Farm, a bomb threat had been called in before the game, every time Stanford blew their cannon off after they scored people about shit themselves

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    1. Many classic films came out of Disney studios during Ron’s tenure, including the entire Herbie series [where the fucked up little VW driven by Dean Jones ‘Goes Bananas’ and ‘Goes to Monte Carlo’ ]. Fortunately, Diane was Keeper of the Flame.

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    2. I went to that game too…old Stanford Stadium….man the height wasn’t even as high as the Rose Bowl…all wood…bleachers. I remember the mob scene as USC fans scurried everywhere like a flash mob hitting Nordstrom’s…..across the field here came the ‘Legoland’ fans….walking in like tin soldiers one-by-one.

      Bad day bad score – Plunkett to Vataha over and over and then the return to SFO to fly home. I wrote ‘Frisco Airport’ on a yellow file cover in huge red ink letters. That hit a nerve….one after another appeared screaming souls ‘It’s San Francisco you %$$(0!&!” Finally, one car slowed and all good save the score.

      John Vella came out of NDHS class of 1968 – same with me.

      ESP2 has IL @ KS …. man the announcers are ‘in love’ with the ‘Jayhawks’ KS 34 IL 15 4th qtr..

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  2. Plow Horse
    AUGUST 25, 2023 AT 3:43 PM
    “So back in 1909 your team could win a game 4 to zero by kicking one field goal. Seems odd but the Rams beat the Bucs one year 5 to 2 in the NFC championship game. My uncle had a large bet on the Rams and had to cover a three point spread. On the last play of the game, with the Rams ahead 5 to 0, the Rams punter intentionally took a safety to avoid having to kick out of the end zone costing my uncle his bet. He bitched about that for years”

    The Rams and Bucs have met twice in the NFC championship game. 1980 Rams won 9-0 and in 2000, the Rams also won 11-6. So your uncle bitched about a big lie from many years, sounds like trump bitching about the ass whipping he took at the ballot box. You lost all credibility with the blog member as if you even had any. Typical narcissists, telling lies to feel relevant

    YOU JUST GOT CAUGHT IN ANOTHER LIE!….HYPOCRITE!

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    1. Cowardly Gabby aka TebowObama aka The Guy who posts as So Cal's Wife & LawyerJohn & Pudly & Plow Horse & steveg49 & DOJ & Scott Wolf and Frank Young's avatar Cowardly Gabby aka TebowObama aka The Guy who posts as So Cal's Wife & LawyerJohn & Pudly & Plow Horse & steveg49 & DOJ & Scott Wolf and Frank Young says:

      A lie like this, Cowardly Gabby aka TebowObama aka The Guy who posts as So Cal’s Wife & LawyerJohn & Pudly & Plow Horse & steveg49 & DOJ & Scott Wolf and Frank Young?

      Cowardly Gabby tell us again that Curtis Conway never returned a kickoff for USC.

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      ” Gabby
      AUGUST 30, 2023 AT 3:07 AM
      Fake gabby: USC Fan would know that teams intentionally kicked away from Trojan star kick returner and WR Curtis Conway.

      you stupid senile troll…..a kick returner returns kickoffs, and a punt returner returns punts…..Conway never returned a kickoff in his entire USC career.

      https://www.on3.com/teams/usc-trojans/news/o-nso-the-usc-mount-rushmore-series-the-kickoff-returners/

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      1. Cowardly Gabby aka TebowObama aka The Guy who posts as So Cal’s Wife & LawyerJohn & Pudly & Plow Horse & steveg49 & DOJ & Scott Wolf and Frank Young's avatar Cowardly Gabby aka TebowObama aka The Guy who posts as So Cal’s Wife & LawyerJohn & Pudly & Plow Horse & steveg49 & DOJ & Scott Wolf and Frank Young says:

        Gabby fucked with me again. He knew Conway returned kickoffs while at USC. But intentionally said Conway never returned kickoffs knowing it would trigger my paranoia and get under my skin, it worked!

        I immediately went into a manic OCD rage and fired off zinger after zinger after zinger calling out his antics. While he was laughing his ass off. I was a mental mess last night and could not sleep knowing I took Gabby’s bait.

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      2. Cowardly Gabby aka TebowObama aka The Guy who posts as So Cal's Wife & LawyerJohn & Pudly & Plow Horse & steveg49 & DOJ & Scott Wolf and Frank Young's avatar Cowardly Gabby aka TebowObama aka The Guy who posts as So Cal's Wife & LawyerJohn & Pudly & Plow Horse & steveg49 & DOJ & Scott Wolf and Frank Young says:

        Cowardly Gabby tell us again that Curtis Conway never returned a kickoff for USC. Even when caught, you never will apologize for your lies!

        BWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA!!!!

        ” Gabby
        AUGUST 30, 2023 AT 3:07 AM
        Fake gabby: USC Fan would know that teams intentionally kicked away from Trojan star kick returner and WR Curtis Conway.

        you stupid senile troll…..a kick returner returns kickoffs, and a punt returner returns punts…..Conway never returned a kickoff in his entire USC career.

        https://www.on3.com/teams/usc-trojans/news/o-nso-the-usc-mount-rushmore-series-the-kickoff-returners/

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    2. Hit ‘like’ by mistake was trying to find who ‘liked it’.

      We’re being swallowed wholesale by the feminist radical left. The reality is seeing that school district in OK hiring a drag queen as one of their principals. Said ‘principal’ was in possession of child porn…..demoncrats that accept the sex change of minors….a ntl’ news network lauding a make for joining a sorority.

      Judgement is coming

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    1. Your wife wanted me to send this message to you. She asked me to record it, but I didn’t realize until I got home that I had hit the mute button.

      She heard on the street corner she’s working that you’ve been missing your AA meetings. She’s not happy.

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      1. Wow!!!! How thoughtful to use your old lady with Halloween mask on to send the message. You’re a fucking genius!

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      2. Ah, the child with her LAME version of “I know you are but what am I?” LOL

        Don’t be so embarrassed of your woman you try to claim she’s mine. Everyone on this blog is surprised you were even able to get that! Unlike you, I don’t have to make up a bunch of names by myself.

        At least a half dozen blog members gave you yours: Village Idiot/BS Artist/Blog Narcissist/Blog Sociopath/Let’s Meet Up/Crabs/Goober/Grabass/The Bane of the Blog/Hypocrite/Chickenshit/A Joke/A Loser/A pussy who should find a different site to pollute, etc. Be proud! You earned them and this latest post shows how.

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      3. STFU…….no one on that clown show scott wolf blog gives a shit about what you say…..How many times have you been depressed because no one responded to your political bs….I know you don’t go there to talk football, you have no football knowledge.

        Quit arguing with people and go get me an extra large bottle of lube…..tiny is a calling

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      4. And now she wants Tiny in her again. Sick.

        Stupid enough to post under a bunch of different names, when her sick posts reveal her identity every time.

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      6. Cowardly Gabby aka TebowObama aka The Guy who posts as So Cal's Wife & LawyerJohn & Pudly & Plow Horse & steveg49 & DOJ & Scott Wolf and Frank Young's avatar Cowardly Gabby aka TebowObama aka The Guy who posts as So Cal's Wife & LawyerJohn & Pudly & Plow Horse & steveg49 & DOJ & Scott Wolf and Frank Young says:

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        Biden was a little too excited to see Garcetti’s young daughter.

        He didn’t want to let her go!

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        Here’s video of Cowardly Gabby aka TebowObama aka The Guy who posts as So Cal’s Wife & Lawyer John & Pudly & Plow House & steveg49 & DOJ & Scott Wolf and Frank Young dancing with her Vice President today

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  3. The fact that the ACC 2 were got USC kicked out of the conference 100 years ago still bothers me. Stanford actually have cheated several times during my life. This includes creative clock management, and getting away with 12 men on the field (not including the refs) Stories about Stanford using drugs on opposing players inspired the M.A.S.H.movie football game. The Stanford band three a bag of white powder as Traveler was running by hitting the horse in the face.
    I’m with McKay I don’t like Stanford.

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  4. Parallel to the OTHER’S contest–
    Start with 20,000 betting units–

    5000 on San Jose St v SC won 25,000
    3000 on Nevada v SC loss 22,000
    3000 on Stanford v SC

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    1. Not buying the 30 whatever point spread? Me neither. I only put 500 points on Stanford to beat the spread, because USC’s defense hasn’t inspired yet and Furd’s offense is under new management. I also put points up that SDSU beats the spread. (But living in San Diego County helps) If the PAC 2 had successfully poached SDSU and Fresno they wouldn’t need to split. Finally I also bet that Cal would be competitive this week.

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    1. John –favorite Stanford story: two lawyer friends who graduated from Stanford did acid after some long ago USC/Stanford game. On the way back, late at night, the driver stopped the car on the freeway and said “what if it doesn’t matter?” His passenger said “what if it does?” —and they drove on.
      #TheEntireHistoryOfWesternPhilosophyEncapsulated

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      1. ….the only kind that allows you to entertain two completely contradictory ideas at the same time — “when this life is over, you are dead…. AND….when this life is over, something else begins…”

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      2. My favorite supervising attorney told me that all wisdom was contained in the saying, “there is no such thing as a free lunch.” That was fine for her…but…for impulsive me it’s “a stitch in time saves nine.”

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  5. So far Gameday has not mentioned USC. 3 hours wasted on a group of talking heads. We all need to send a very large F.U. out to espn, the liberal clown network.

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