Morning Buzz: Was Moment Too Big For USC Administration?

A former USC coach sent me this text:

“When you think about it, the president (Carol Folt) has zero football experience and (Mike) Bohn has never been anywhere where football was great. So how do they really know what to do at an elite football school?”

The problem now is will they know anything more in a year?

43 thoughts on “Morning Buzz: Was Moment Too Big For USC Administration?

  1. In my opinion, the Pac 12 lost $millions When oregon lost its second game this season.. Had both teams had one loss going in they’d both been highly rated AND both be playing in major bowls/payoffs regardless of the outcome last night.

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    1. Nice retort, Pudly.
      This is Pac 12 football. Every year.
      I hate to adopt the ACC/SEC (and CUSA, AAC) plan of only playing 8 conference games, but that is the smart move “going forward.”

      Beating each other up in conference is not producing the results (relevancy) that the Pac 12 desires.

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  2. Both Folt and Bohn were let go by NC and Colorado.. What do you expect?
    Second Rate administrators giving a no nothing vote of confidence to a third rate
    Football coach..
    With a current ranked recruiting class of 11th in the PAC12 and 76th Nationally, the future of SC Football looks really Bad.
    There’s still a chance Helton gets fired if he loses this bowl game and gets embarrassed again.. But these Dimwits (Folt and Bohn) Have never been around an Elite level of football and don’t understand the importance of USC being back in the conversation of
    National championship Football..
    We got exactly we USC paid for..
    Mediocrity and zero vision..
    This is a continuing fiasco and
    Embarrassment!!
    Bob Jensen #51 LB
    1970 Rose Bowl CoCaptain

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    1. Correct all the way around. Both Folt and Bohn have been run of the mill administrators throughout their career. Bohn getting canned at CO pretty much says it all. Cincinnati is not a big time athletic school. This was probably the biggest decision he has had to make in his career and he choked on it. You get what you pay for.

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      1. You’re probably right, Linkster —but let’s wait and see if they have a Plan B in place if and when Helton gets embarrassed in a Bowl game and against Alabama. I know it’s probably the height of naivite but I keep holding out hope that there’s a good coach out there who told USC, “I’ll be happy to start in 2021 but I don’t want to launch my career at USC against Saban and Alabama.”
        #InTheMeantime,OfCourse,RecruitingIsInTheToilet

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    1. Wrong, Pac 12. NO moment is too big for the USC administration! How can you forget the ever so slightly contrite statement that Max put out when the Dean of the Med School was caught doing drugs and sleeping with students? It went something like this [seriously]: “It is a shame that so many hard driving —but otherwise wonderful —top flight executives sometimes lapse into self destructive conduct. This has become a problem for many institutions in our modern age.” So there! USC knows how to step up to the plate in tough times, my friend!

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      1. The Baylor coach’s first visit to a recruit? He went to see a defensive end, lineman, Lynch #93, sacking OU now., top 5 in the nation…..Last night, #5 Kevon Thibodeaux, a local for USC, had a strong impact on the Duck championship, as a freshman…brought this up before, long long time ago…Helton’s local misses are a glaring issue….

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      2. With linemen at a premium, especially in the west, this is a very very bad sign…so, moving forward, do something about it…

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      3. #5 Thibodeaux, defensive end, Oregon, even went to Keyshawn Johnson’s high school, Dorsey, before transferring to Oaks Christian in Westlake Village, I believe…what happened there? Did our coach/USC alumni hookup breakdown? Ineffective? Pride? Lack of attention to detail? What? If Bohn wants to work with Clay to improve, start with these types of situations.,.How would’ve Thibodeaux and Drake Jackson looked together as bookend defensive ends lol?

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      4. MG:
        My take….
        Carmen P brought in scads of donations and the best medical talent in the world. Keck USC Med was catapulted into the upper echelons of Medical Centers in America during the tenure.

        It is not an easy task for a private Med School competing with state funded schools to advance in nationwide rankings, but we did it. Furthermore, there is an “entrenchment” of status in the Medical School world (Cleveland Clinic, Mayo, Wash U-St Louis, etc), so “leap-frogging” your competition is very difficult.

        Carmen P helped deliver the most impressive neuro team in the World–and Neuro is where the next Biotech revolution will happen. Obviously, the task was too large for Carmen P and he “went dixie” on us.

        After the fact? Still the #22 (or so) Medical School in America and likely top 40-50 in the World, with a HUGE investment now in Regenerative Medicine, and the premier Neuro/Alzheimer research Center in the World.

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      5. Cal just had a breakthrough, it seems, in the fight against Alzheimer’s disease…it appears, the previous notion was brain cells dying, or something, forgive my primitive explanations….now, to my understanding, they may be just dormant, thus the discovery of a new medicine to unlock the brain cells, which, hopefully, can affect the disease in folks…

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      6. I just happened to catch it on the news, not too long ago…the ticker, at the bottom…UCSF also very involved in the Alzheimer’s fight…

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  3. Folt knows exactly what she is doing. She and the BOT didn’t want Meyer, so they blocked him Then they went to Stoops, maybe he wanted a lot of money, who knows, but Stoops’ best coaching days are probably in the past.

    Matt Rhule would have been a great choice, IMO.

    Bring on the Wolverines. As close to a Rose Bowl matchup as we can get. Would love to see the Trojans run over Harbaugh. It would be great to send Pittman and the other seniors out on a win.

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    1. 67 — I sure HOPE that Pittman is playing in that game —and I HOPE Harrell is calling the plays —otherwise we can chalk it up as a loss right now.
      [And what does it say about Helton if he can’t keep Harrell? Harrell is only the SECOND good hire Helton has made —and the other left after one year, too].

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      1. Harrell might be better-served by staying one more year – consider:
        He knows whop he has here (Helton) and as incompetent it seems Helton ios a lot of the time he’s a very easy guy to work with. Contrast that with Tom Herman. As dictatorial and inpatient a coach as there ever has been. Herman’s on the hot seat – hate to imagine it would be like to try to advance one’s career while having that male ‘drama queen’ ready to torch anyone when the lays fail.

        here Harrell has been offered UNLV and UTEP head coaching spots. ‘If’ Helton cans Baxter and Prendergast and can hang onto Harrell it might be a good year and a much better launch angle for Harrell a year hence.

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      2. Alv,
        The one thing that worries me about Harrell is that you could plainly see in post practice interviews that he was losing is initial enthusiasm as the season wore on. It’s anybody’s guess what was bothering him —probably a combination of watching Helton, Baxter and Clancy under perform and having to listen to criticism he didn’t deserve. Whatever the case —it’s up to Helton to make things good, bring him back in the fold and allow Slovis to continue to grow under him.

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      3. Agree that Harrell’s market value will rise. How could it not, with Slovis, Stepp, Christon, London, St. Brown, Ford, McCoy all playing next year?

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      1. Pudly,
        Stepp will help….a lot…. but to beat Michigan I think we’re gonna need Pittman, too…
        #AndContinuityAtOffensiveCoordinator

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      2. No doubt. As you know I’ve been a big fan of his forever…but honestly, if Ford, London and another frosh is ready we’d still be pretty hard to cover.

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      3. Pudly —Those guys MIGHT just be enough —[heck, they’ll have to be next year]. But for this game —I think Pittman is good for 2 TD’s we’re otherwise not gonna get.

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      4. The bowl season (at least imo) is about next season and getting the new guys a head start for the upcoming season. The sooner Slovis has to find a new security blanket, the better.

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      5. Pudly — Didn’t think of it that way. Looking at the bright side, it would be a huge confidence builder if NEXT year’s starting receiver lineup lit up the Michigan defense.

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      6. Pudly, I love to watch that guy run. High steps through the line and then he is gone. I have said this before, but hopefully it bears repeating, he reminds me of Lendale before extra weight slowed him down.

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      7. I think when you take out the QBs, Trojan backs avg’d 5.4 yds/car. Seems like we just need more a dedication to being able do it when we want to, rather than being made to.

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  4. This morning in the paper Jim Alexander said fans are overboard in our venom towards the administration at USC. I say they earned our wrath. Based on our response he believes that we want good football over integrity. I guess the fact that Helton lied when telling Haden he knew football doesn’t count. And to further his claim that fans don’t care he brings up the University admissions scam, the doctor of gynecology and the director of medical school scandal as something we should be more concerned about.
    Well Jim, I’m sorry, but we are talking apples and oranges here. Yes all three embarrassments are aggravating to all who think USC is special and above other schools, but the average member of the fan base is not a stakeholder in these events. That USC is owning these events publicly and dealing directly is part of the integrity that USC shows.
    However, retaining Helton as head coach is a scandal adding icing to a lopsided cake. I understand you may think we are being crybabies, Jim, but USC football is what brought our family to USC in the first place. Right now the sport isn’t earning its keep. I think I have earned the right to be upset by the current situation and if the administration isn’t receptive to our complaints they are at fault also.

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  5. Where is the Board of Trustees? They have the ultimate responsibility for USC’s future. It’s not too early to sack the lackluster AD and President for their lack of vision. Mediocre leadership brings about mediocre results. The decision to retain Helton will haunt USC for years to come. All one has to do is look at Helton’s recruiting class, and this class will be indicative of USC’s mediocrity on the field for the next four years and years to come after that. USC is where it is because of 10 years of mediocre or worse leadership. This is truly a fiasco. Has anyone had an unvarnished (i.e. “come to Jesus”) conversation with the President and AD? USC’s football program should not be like Colorado or Cincinnati, but it has every appearance of becoming so.
    Jim Wulfsberg, Class of 66
    USC Associate

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  6. NO ONE PUT UP THE $12 TO $20 MILLION TO BUYOUT GOMER HE’LL TON CONTRACT THAT LYNN SWANNY CREATED.. CAUSING HATE ANGER MENTAL ILLNESS THAT YOU WRITE ABOUT USC WAS NEVER GOING TO PAY GOMER HE’LL TON BUYOUT SO NOW USC HAS ANOTHER YEAR OF GOMER HE’LL TON

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    1. SC has 6 BILLION in endowments!
      Pay they Twits off and move on!
      You know SC was penny-pinching when they let Former HC John Robinson go to LSU citing
      Budget issues!! Total BS!!

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  7. Helton can and will probably get his ass handed to him in the bowl game by Baylor , Michigan, or Iowa. And then follow that with the Alabama game and we all know what is going to happen there with a talented but undisciplined, penalty, non physical football team vs a disciplined hungry and upset Alabama team coming off two losses. You know Saban will have his team ready to play. This administration will still not fire Helton after a lets say 77-10 beatdown. My hopes are done that a new coach will be hired.

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  8. I see all hope of anything changing gone. It is what it is now. I am liking the idea of bringing Del Rio in as DC. What a change that would be. We might see a defense that can tackle and players not getting hugs but their ass kicked if they make a stupid mistake. Question is is Helton to insecure to do it or is he going to be the professional he aspires to be and bring in the best available.

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