USC Saturday Buzz: Where Did All The Draft Picks Go?

No matter what happens today, who predicted USC would have only one player selected in the first three rounds of the NFL Draft?

It’s crushed the fanboys (including some media) that Amon-Ra St. Brown did not get picked Friday although I suspect NFL teams did not want to use such an early pick for a receiver with his size.

The other possible prospect — defensive tackle Jay Tufele — wasn’t helped by the fact no one at USC other than Clay Helton remains who actually coached him and the guys he played for were part of Helton’s 14-man crew of assistants fired since 2015. That made it harder for him to get glowing evaluations when NFL teams called.

Unless you are a real can’t-miss prospect, you probably get hurt by being a “Helton player.”

Next year will be different when Drake (London/Jackson) are available to NFL teams. Ask yourself this: How much has Helton gotten out of those two expected first-round picks the past two years? Not as much as a real coach, unfortunately.

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36 thoughts on “USC Saturday Buzz: Where Did All The Draft Picks Go?

  1. What do you mean Scotty St. Brown hasn’t g
    been drafted yet because of his size? Has nothing to do with size Elijah Moore out of Old Miss and the receiver Dyami Brown from North Carolina both got drafted. Brown is listed as 6- 1 but he looks small. Also Amari Rodgers from Clemson got drafted. By Green Bay. He’s only 5-10. That’s Where Armon was predicted on going before the draft. Rondal Moore is only 5-7 he got drafted in the 2nd round out of Purdue, yikes! . USC and Helton are the problems why players are not getting drafted, anymore. 1 player drafted in the first 3rounds. An absolute travesty at USC. More ammunition for the other universities to use against them during recruiting.

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  2. No shock here. You have a mediocre head coach surrounded by mediocre assistant coaches with a mediocre AD gives you mediocre NFL draft success. Alabama in contrast has a top notch football program where 6 players were selected in the first round ONLY. WHEN OH WHEN WILL USC WAKE UP AND HIRE A SIMILAR TOP NOTCH HEAD COACH???

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  3. Queen Folt and her boot licking servant Bohn need to heed what happens to the dreams of these young men when they are NOT DEVELOPED. If it’s really all about the player athletes, then get a head coach who will develop them and make the NFL hire them so they can realize their dreams. Ferentz, the Iowa head coach has such a sterling reputation, his players go early. NFL knows they have been developed and they can play. SC players get hugs, atta boys and false praise. They are not being taught toughness and hard work.

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    1. Carol —Helton is such a loser he doesn’t really –deep down — comprehend there’s a world outside the little world he lives in. He actually believes that coddling malingerers and hugging incompetents doesn’t have any “real -world-beyond-USC” implications. He believes this cuz he’s never been part of the Big Leagues —and this belief brings down everyone around him…..
      #There’sMoreToLifeThanHugs

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  4. If the two game ball recipients have had no “just cause” for Helton’s dismissal, THIS STUDENT ATHLETE FAILURE, should. The NFL draft decline under helton is a travesty. Great athletes come to a university to prepare for their life’s work. Instead,
    they get mediocrity which is evident to all educated football observers. Who wants to draft a player who needs to more development because he did not receive it in college. These poor draft numbers will adversely affect SC’s ability to recruit.
    The dollars going into everything but a professional, qualified
    big name head coach is only wasted dollars and more slaps in the face to the USC fans … by the way who are becoming increasingly more disenchanted. This continuing bad NFL DRAFT under helton is cause for dismissal. Then we could get a big name coach during the summer. Money is not the problem it seems to be a power game with an ignorant president who should step aside because she is incompetent to judge football issues. She claimed initially it wasn’t her job, now she is protecting helton for some reason. Perhaps that needs an investigation.

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    1. Does Helton know more than he lets on about the admissions scandal? About the phony “walk-ons”? Why would a proven mediocrity like Helton be given an EXTENSION & A RAISE?
      #AnInvestigationWouldBeNice

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  5. I was surprised St. Brown wasn’t picked up. He’s a better athlete than most of the team and has a good work ethic. I guess that makes me a fan boy, but not really.
    I think his name is ridiculous and he was a bit of a one trick pony but the trick he does he does well. He was raised to be a sports star, which makes him carry an over exaggerated sense of self worth. Fortunately Helton used him as well as could be expected.
    I don’t think USC is anywhere near the brand they were preHelton and the has been a burden for the players seeking NFL gold.
    If you look at our “school of football “ faculty, you see professors teaching math using an abacus, teaching medicine using leaches (many of them are on staff) and teaching reading with first grade reading books.

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    1. “Raised to be a sports star”??

      Maybe you could tell me the number who were raised to be a sports star that took their SATs in 3 different languages. Geez dude, really?

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      1. Padster, I didn’t say he was stupid, I said there was much in the media about his home life and upbringing. His parents were athletes, his brothers are cashing in their tickets, I’d hate to insult him in a bar there wouldn’t be enough left of me to send back to Pomona let alone way out to Rialto. The kid was a major force on offense and probably could have done more.
        I’m just saying he was conditioned and groomed for success. I think he will be.

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      2. I’m saying you’re still selling him short. He was groomed for success BOTH on and off the field. His mother put balance in their lives.

        Just sayin, nothing personal.

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  6. Many on this site were predicting that Michael Pittman, JR would be a bust, yet he had a very nice Rookie year with the Colts despite having a devastating early injury (tibial compartment syndrome). MP, Jr is a hard-working WR willing to go over the middle and make the tough catches.

    So is Amon-Ra.
    Of the three brothers, he is the most polished and had the best 3 year career. I wonder if the lack of production by his two older brothers cautioned the drafters? His speed is not superior, so he “slots in” at likely a slot receiver.
    He is strong, disciplined with his routes, with good hands. I don’t recall many (if any) drops during his 2.5 seasons. He presents some match-up problems in the slot if he can get isolated on an LB or slower safety.

    Colbert is proving to be a good coach, so It is not accurate to say these players were not “coached up.”

    In a world where feckless politicians buy your votes with trillions of dollars of wasted credit and value means nothing, ARSB offers incredible value. I see him at 40+ receptions per year and 500+ yards gained. I don’t see him returning punts, but he could contribute there also. Oh, and his momma made sure that he was a well-educated multi-lingual, young man. He’s a great pick for Detroit. I hope they find a QB who can contribute.

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    1. It’s funny how quickly NFL selection priorities (based on specific needs and tons of vagaries) cause fans to forget what they’ve seen with their own eyes for years: St. Brown making difficult catches in traffic, taking monster hits and bouncing back up for the next play and SCORING when we desperately needed scores…
      #…..IGuessAllThatHardlyMatters

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      1. But according to you MG, wasn’t St. Brown one of those SUCC players that were hurt in the Oregon game preventing the, any team, anywhere, anytime, Clown U 5-1 FB program from pursuing a rich bowl invitation?

        M. Lee was a better receiver than St. Brown during his SUCC years, and Lee was an major NFL bust. There’s no reason to draft St. Brown, a potential NFL bust. St. Brown is F/A material at best.

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      2. To My Friend Owns:
        How did I KNOW you’d bring up the Oregon game?
        #IShouldaSaid”ExceptForTheOregonGame….”

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    2. Obviously, metrics matter especially in the early rounds. His 40 time of 4.51 is hardly eye opening for his height and weight. Consider Pitt running 4.52 at 25+ lbs and 4+ inches taller. I do think he’ll make a place for himself in the league with toughness, precision and work ethic as you said.

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    3. It does bear some questioning as to why Amon Ra was drafted so low. He might not have high end speed, but the guy is a gamer and will deliver. He is going to do SC proud. Not sure whether Detroit will be able to set him up for success, but Amon Ra will deliver somewhere.

      So was it his measureables or did the NFL simply not respect USC enough to give him the benefit of the doubt?

      I think that Amon Ra was a 5 star because of great training at the high school level, but his max ceiling is simply lower due to physical limits. I really dont think it is a lack of development, either physically or mentally that resulted in his low ranking. He has built his body as much as can be expected and his work ethic is top notch.

      There have been alot of positive changes at SC football since Bohn took over. The S&C is very good, the defensive coaches are top-notch. But it is going to take 2-3 years to upgrade the whole roster and allow this team to succeed at a higher level.

      Helton needs to go this year, so they can close on a top recruiting class and set up the program for future success. But that doesnt mean that it is the same dumpster fire as it has been. Things are getting better and certain position coaches (So’Oto and Williams) are going to produce top NFL prospects in the coming years.

      Helton really isnt in charge anymore, so we should assume that any new successes or failures stem from TO and Graham Harrell. And Donte might be the future of SC football.

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    4. I remember Unitas to Berry…do you?
      neither too tall or even real fast…they just beat everybody…defense even knew he was going to throw it to him…

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  7. Tufele, St.Brown, Hufanga and Marlon Tiupoloti all got bad advice for coming out early in this years draft. Especially Tufele, who was projected a 1st rounder before he decided to sit out last season for covid reasons.

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  8. Tufele went too early. These kids listen to all the money comments that are flashed before them by agents and they end up leaving before they are ready.

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    1. You are so right! The leaches er agents get into these guys heads about money; you are going to get drafted high only to be disappointed. Not to get mixed up or confused with MGs post a few articles, back. When Pudly and him were talking about USC school of medicine, using leeches for scientific research. Lol I just couldn’t resist!

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  9. Hufanga a 5th rounder to the Niners. That shoulder must of not checked out, to fall all the way to the 5th round. Or Helton just sucks! All Americans don’t mean squat at USC like they use to. When it comes to the draft. He can’t even get all Americans drafted in the first 3 rounds anymore.

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  10. Hufunga and Tuipolutu should have waited another year. It seems like Helton just tells these players “make your own decision and I’ll support it”. He’s doing them a mis-service by not warning them about these agents who just want them to sign on the dotted line. They don’t care if these players make it or not.

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    1. They get evaluated through the NFL. Some listen, some pretend to, and some don’t care. They all have their own reasons.

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  11. Griffin and Tyler Vaughn are 2 other guys who should have never left SC. Those agents will tell you anything they think that you want to hear. They don’t care if it’s true or noit.

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  12. You want to see pissed off? Go to a Texas Longhorn board. First player taken was in fourth round. So they stepped lower than USC.

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    1. So that’s why Texas fired Herman. By not wasting any time after the season ended and moved on. He wasn’t developing enough talent. The writing was on the wall and the NFL draft showed the obvious flaw with him. Too bad USC and co. can’t see the obvious flaw with clueless Helton.

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  13. The forty is overrated, did you see him ball at USC? Pudly! He is a play maker and always around the ball. A nose for the football. They just don’t hand out unanimous All American honors to anybody. Hufanga can flat out ball on the football field. A total protege of Troy Polamalu who he happen to train with Troy, in the off season. Still can’t believe he fell to the 5th round. 40 time, which you mentioned and his shoulder not checking out. That’s all I can think of.

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