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USC Sunday Buzz: Donte Williams And Graham Harrell Follies

An argument of some USC media fanboys (before the losses made them turn on him) was that Donte Williams was burdened by the fact he was named interim coach so early in the season, it was impossible to control the team for so long a period of time without the authority of being a permanent successor.

That conveniently forgets Ed Orgeron went 6-2 in 2013 as an interim coach. No one said Orgeron lost control of the team that season. They actually showed more spirit and discipline once Orgeron took over.

  • I want to make sure I don’t let Graham Harrell off the hook either. He should be fired today after that pathetic offensive performance against ASU. USC mustered 279 yards in total offense before the final possession.

Where is Harrell’s arrogance about how USC would score 50 points a game and how great his version of the Air Raid was?

Does he want to use Drake London as an excuse?

He didn’t recruit London. But he recruited a lot of the other offensive players. He’s been a disgrace.

87 thoughts on “USC Sunday Buzz: Donte Williams And Graham Harrell Follies”

      2. BTW, John McKay was a racist SOB!

        McKay didn’t promote Anthony Davis for the Heisman because Davis was dating his daughter and he didn’t like it.

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      1. John McKay was such a “racist SOB” that he went to hell hole Bauchet Street Facility to visit O. J. [in spite of the fact everyone told him not to], saying “whatever he’s done, he’s still like a son.” He’s only the guy who was on hospital watch for Ricky Bell at the end. Yeah, he just hated black people. Just hated them so much.
        Cut the crap, asshole.

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      3. GTFOH Tebow with your nonsense. Not everyone wants Fickle. You sound like a typical fucin lefty sheep Democrat lumping everyone else with a few and trying to sell your nonsense narrative. Sometimes I think you have feminine tendencies with the trash you post, the stuff you believe in and try to sell on this blog. The village fucin idiot other then Owns, Bruin Rob on this site.

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  2. That was the question posed to interim coach Donte Williams after a listless night from the USC offense. He was non-committal.

    “I’ll always say this,” Williams said. “We’ve got to do what we’ve got to do to win a football game. It’s not like either one of them lit it up tonight to say one is clear cut in front of the other. They both made mistakes just like we all made mistakes.”

    In the past, offensive coordinator Graham Harrell has pointed out some concerns that playing two quarterbacks could cause some problems with rhythm, and those concerns played out Saturday night. Neither Slovis nor Dart said the rotation messed with their rhythm after the game, but neither found a groove.

    Although much of the focus will understandably be placed on USC’s quarterback situation, Williams pointed to another area when summing up the loss.

    “The biggest problem is we didn’t control the line of scrimmage,” Williams said. “They ran the ball on us and had big, explosive plays in the run game, especially when it came to tackling. At the same time, we weren’t able to run the ball the way we needed to. So one of the biggest things is controlling the line of scrimmage, and when you can’t do that against a team that has multiple guys who can run the ball, you’re going to have issues.”

    In the second half, starting right guard Liam Jimmons suffered an apparent knee injury. At that point, USC had three linemen playing in roles they weren’t really accustomed to. The Sun Devils’ defensive front simply outplayed them, too.

    “Pretty much the whole night, they had the box loaded,” Ingram said. “I mean, it’s pretty hard to run the ball with a loaded box. That was pretty much their game plan coming into the game was to stop the run. They’ve been doing that pretty much the whole season too, especially against UCLA and some of their top rushers, so we already knew what they were going to do. Also, they kind of stunted a lot up front, so they did a pretty good job.”

    There’s no other way to put it: USC’s tackling was terrible on Saturday night. On one second-quarter play, quarterback Jayden Daniels threw to White at the line of scrimmage. White turned upfield and broke five tackles on his way to a 26-yard gain. That moment highlighted the poor fundamentals USC has displayed on defense all season.

    On the next play, White made two defenders miss and broke free for a 47-yard touchdown. Yes, the late holding call on Chris Steele that turned a third-and-13 play into a first down and changed the outlook of the game will probably be remembered as the defensive lowlight, but bad tackling has been at the core of USC’s poor defensive performance this year, and Saturday night was no different.

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    2. Watch that 26 yard run and catch by White over again. EVERY single Trojan around him is trying to strip the ball instead of going for the tackle. Is that coaching? Or is it simply a case of players thinking, “it’s less physically demanding to slap at the ball than to tackle –so I’ll slap at the ball” ??
      I still think Chris Steele should be Arizona State’s Player of the game —he GAVE them the TD that sealed the game. We were gonna get the ball back …but he gave it back to them. That play was the straw that broke the camel’s back.
      [Also Donte is dumber than fuck if he doesn’t do the following for the UCLA game: Play Slovis between the 20 yard lines, bring in Dart when we get inside the Red Zone. Only way we’re gonna get down the field …and, then, score]…
      #…AssumingDartDidn’tHurtHimselfCelebratingInTheEndZone

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      1. You were spot on yesterday in saying that “This is a just a bunch of guys playing on the field at the same time.”

        Think Tudor electric football, that’s what USC looks like on the field these days, players going every which way like chickens with no heads

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      2. Gee –that’s the result you’d expect if you put a bunch of kids on the field without practicing …and with no coaches on the sideline….
        #Oh,IGetIt

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      4. Forgot about the pumpkin experiment! And promo video!
        #WatchDonteRepeatThatEveryWeekFronNowTillBYU..
        #”ItSeemsToRelaxEverybody!”

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      5. MG

        Agree with you 100%.
        That single 26 yard play demonstrates my argument that this the worst defense in USC history.
        Tackling is not taught evidently.
        Happy that there are only 3 games remaining with these awful coaches.
        Talk about cleaning the swamp.

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    1. I’ve never thought this thought before —but perhaps we should all be thinking it: Should the players save themselves from further embarrassment by striking against this joke of a coaching staff? Before you say “No!” —picture Graham Harrell and Todd Orlando and Donte Williams on the sidelines and in the booth…with those clueless faces…and empty heads.
      Maybe it’s necessary for Folt to really deal with the consequences of her wokeness [“I won’t have a man like Urban walking beside me on the beautiful Path of Righteousness”]….

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      1. Urban really doesn’t want t walk alongside her anywhere. No worries for feckless folt. Only those who have something to gain from her are there beside her. Others see her as an over her head hypocritical fool still suffering from Napoleona complex.

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      2. Ha! Don’t hold back, Carra!
        Seriously, all the things Folt sez she’s succeeding at (“righteousness”, “social justice awareness”, “renewing outmoded archetypes”, “embracing the future”) are illusory (and, actually, immeasurable). The things that can be measured —campus security, an end to corruption and deceit, fan participation in Trojan sports, donations, quality appointments — add up to one big, fucking disaster.

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    2. A LOT of these players are not sustainable after this season, that’s for sure.

      How long will it take for Slovis to hit the transfer portal ?

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      1. Every game further destroys the chances of any player on our “team” of playing at the next level (which is not fair to a few of them —but it is what it is). And, obviously, with every game the chances of our coaches ever coaching at a recognized program geometrically reduce. Graham and Todd are SO finished.

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      2. Unfortunately, I have no confidence or hope in the current or past administrations at USC. Frankly, to me, it doesn’t appear football is a priority. If that is true, it is a dichotomy of the “woke” carol appears to project. Football has been a means of breaking out of poverty for many, many players. If bohn doesn’t get a top notch coach and announce it soon, I fear SC’s football program is doomed. Recruits will go elsewhere and our talented players will enter the portal. If that happens bohn and folt should at least be hung in effigy……but really should be FIRED and escorted off the campus immediately.

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    1. Apathy is worse than disgust or more dramatically, hatred. Apathy has set in and acceptance that we are terrible is where I’m at for the this team. Can’t say I’m there for USC Football yet, I really hope Bohner will hire a coach that fixes this shit show. With the shit show running the university, I am worried.

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  5. It’s time to face facts. Donte Williams is nothing more than a AAU basketball coach who runs around gaslighting all these kids and parents on his “program”.
    That being said, the real blame for this fiasco falls squarely on the shoulders Folt/Bohn. They had a chance to hire Urban Meyer or Bob Stoops and they spit the bit.
    If you think this loss was the low point, wait until the last two games when UCLA and BYU comes into the Coliseum and does a tap dance on the Trojans.

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    1. Do fans have to watch that? To players have to participate in that?
      I’m serious. How much abasement is necessary here? Folt and Bohn have failed so miserably they deserve a special kind of present. Boycott.
      #”It’sTimeForAStupidAndMeaninglessAct”
      —Bluto from Animal House
      [Let’s show Dean Wormer a thing or two]….

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      1. My heart aches for these young athletes who have been robbed of their player development. USC and THE MEDIA have been shameful failures in their duties. Where were the cries of dereliction of duty against the “nicest guy in the world.” As I’ve said before, how nice is it to cheat young men of realizing their dreams and not giving them a path to financial success. Helton got his big bucks, if he’s such a nice guy he should give that money to the kids he cheated of their futures. Yes, I’d like to see a no show for the upcoming games. The BOT and administration need to see, we are no longer going to participate in their destructive circus. Perhaps, when members of the BOT get teased at their posh country clubs, they will “wake” up & want to bring back the USC glory days to bring back their bragging rights.

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      2. There should be signs all over campus: “Players and fans boycott Trojan sports until we get a REAL Athletic Director and a NEW president.”
        #It’sNOTAboutTheSeed

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      3. Don’t stop there alumni need to stop donating money also until Folt and Bohn are gone. I have a feeling that are going to hire the wrong head coach and put the program in further abyss. Fans are already doing their parts by not going to the games Alumni need to stop with the donations asap. Look for a wok hire with a person of color instead of the best coach possible that wants the job to lead SC back to greatness. I see this coming a mile away.

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      5. If only Kevin McCarthy could get it together and give Bluto’s speech —word for word —- before the Build Back Dumber vote on November 15th…

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  6. Bottom line – the real cause for all the defeats this season is:

    Lack of talent- on both on the offensive and defensive lines, and linebackers. USC looks like a high school team in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Poor recruiting in these areas is now showing up big time. Drake Jackson is a vastly overrated player.

    Every game it’s one coach, or a certain number of plays everyone points the finger out. USC just does not have the players this season face the music. ASU played a subpar game tried to give the game to the Trojans, and unfortunately our team do not take the offer.

    I will say this USC looked lost on offense without Drake London who was by far their most productive player. It is the coaches fault for letting Drake get most of the plays thrown his way, and not balancing the attack early in the season. We need to give the other receivers time to take over his role including Kyle Ford who is still inexperienced. Please no more alternating QB except maybe in the red zone where we need a dual threat at QB for. Quarterback, and Wide Receiver talent is not lacking the problem is we have poor talent everywhere else on the team except maybe defensive back.

    No one on the board should be surprised at this loss nor that the offense struggled without Drake London. Can this team beat Cal next week maybe, but probable losses should be expected vs. UCLA, and BYU do to their physical style of play.

    Donte is trying to re-build this program, but it’s hard to do that without the right mix of players especially in the trenches. Is he ready to be a head coach definitely not, but for USC to rebuild it’s needs to get some lineman, and physical linebackers who can take on the physical teams.

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    1. And who is to blame for that lack of talent ? I’ll give you a list

      Haden: he hired the incompetent fuck Gomer
      Swann: he extended the incompetent fuck Gomer
      Bohn: he could have fired the incompetent fuck Gomer last year
      Folt: she caved on getting a top coach due to her WOKENESS
      Gomer: he “recruited” these kids
      Every assistant under Gomer: they didn’t coach any of these kids up, none of them, not to mention acting like this was a country club and being lazy at their jobs.

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      1. If you think it was bad THEN just imagine how bad it is now when the coaches are on their phones at practice begging high schools to hire them for next season….
        #IJustWishCarolWereOnThePhoneDoingTheSameThing…..

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      2. Couldn’t agree more. You should be a columnist you write some great stuff about what’s wrong with USC. Start the movement to get rid of Folt and Bohn asap. This is just going to get worse. Clown college is what USC is right now. They only care about money and collecting their pay checks and pension.

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    2. tommyd – you are falling for what the coaches want you to believe – that this is a player problem. COMPLETE BS!!!!

      This is a coaching problem. The air raid offense is a joke and Graham Harrell is a crappy offensive coach and even a crappy QB coach.

      His offensive scheme is so easy for opponents to figure out and game-plan against. There are no plays that cause misdirection or create strategic leverage, it is completely obvious when they are setting up a running play with their tight ends, the routes they run are generic, there is horrible mismanagement of tight end in the passing game, the blocking schemes were an after-thought when they tried to bolt on a running game to the incompetent air raid offense. And the philosophy of practicing the same plays over and over runs into the law of diminishing returns in performance.

      With a weak offense that has no diversity the defense doesnt get to practice in a way that would build their abilities. The lack of effective blocking schemes by the offense doesnt build performance on either side of the line of scrimmage. When the offense cant score, the defense eventually just gives up and no longer really puts in maximum effort.

      But it isnt the players, it is the lack of accountability with the coaching staff. Both sides of the team are horribly coached at this point.

      The responsibility for this lies with Bohn and Sosna. Did they really think it was a smart idea to fire Clay Helton and put Donte in charge, but have him stuck with GH and TO as coordinators? How was that going to improve anything?

      Sure, the roster has deteriorated, but there is plenty of talent in those kids. They just need to believe in the coaches, and they dont.

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      1. Terrible coaching of mediocre talent.
        A few NFL calibre recruits surrounded by over-hyped High School “stars”
        who think just because “I wear the Cardinal and Gold, so I must be special.”

        The effort by the O-line, D-line, LB and WR were “unTrojan-like.”

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  7. Everyone is following the hype that Donte is the No.1 recruiter in the country. I agree with that, but if one notices he has stockpiled USC at the defensive back/ safety , and wide receiver positions but little else. Remember, his only experience in college football is as a defensive back coach so there you go obviously Donte hasn’t been much of a factor recruiting offensive and defensive lineman and linebackers. Yes, the other coaches do help in recruiting the other position, but the Donte factor is not working for recruiting players in the trenches, and he is the recruiting coordinator.

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    1. He’s not the problem. Donte inherited a program in steady decline since about 2015/6. Sark and Kiff still recruited great talent.

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    1. To quote a “coach”:
      “It sucks.”
      [Oh, it sucks, Donte? Somebody tell this guy that it starts with him. Have the guts to pick a QB, pull receivers who drop sure first down passes, bench players who slap at runners rather than bring them down, pull any o-line player who lets defenders brush by him 3 times in A ROW]..
      #IRememberATimeWhenUSCHitSOHard…
      #….OpposingPlayersWentOuttaTheGame

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      1. he learned from horrible helton that being loved is more important than anything. Until he learns being the boss isn’t a popularity contest, he will fail.

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  10. Regular season ends Nov 27 with conference championships and CFP announced the following weekend. I expect USC to make a coaching announcement that following week around Dec 10. It’s the homestretch.

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    1. Mike Bohn’s December 10th press release:
      “Given the progress made in our last game, I think it’s clear Donte Williams is our man. I ask the Trojan family to join with me in welcoming our New Head Coach!”

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      2. I really have had enough. If they hire a poor coach, I’m not rewarding bad behavior with viewership. I’ll find a program that better represents my views. I already cut off my USC donations and it will take a while and proof to resume them IF EVER.

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    2. Bourbon channeling a little Jimi (transforming Dylan into eternal magnificence): “There must be some kind of way out of here…Said the joker to the thief…There’s too much confusion…I can’t get no relief…”

      Guessing not about USC football, but sure seems to apply! And of course Jimi famously applauded USC’s 1970 Rose Bowl victory over Michigan during the recording of Band of Gypsies at Fillmore East, so…

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    1. Three Stooges provided excellent intro music for Rush…but since you mention “Rock Bottom,” then…”Hard times, got me down, good times, ain’t around…now I got the right to say, when you hit Rock Bottom and you’re there to stay…Rock Bottom!…oh, you know you ought to treat me good…”

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      2. Brad-I was lucky (I think) – had older brothers with good music taste (lots of Rush, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Beatles, Pink Floyd, Blue Oyster Cult, Yes, earlier Genesis…but also a dash of Kiss for a year or two…

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  14. Lol owns the Ruins have been stuck in bedrock for years. Talk about rock bottom. You bottom feeders of the Pac 12 south have no leg to stand on.
    3-3 mediocre and you are still seeking attention from everyone on this blog as usual. Pathetic! worry about the lousy ruins and how many jelly donuts the chipper had all week.

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  16. Just don’t pay money to go to USC football games until they put a product on the field that is worth paying for. Would you spend money to buy a Yugo? Why spend money to see a mediocre football team?

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  17. Dec 10 coaching announcement for a proven coach……………………HIGHLY UNLIKELY
    Have you forgotten that the College Football games, and the major bowl games are in early January. If I am a USC candidate of one of these teams competing in a major bowl or playoff I wait until after that final game to make an announcement in respect to the players on my team.

    It could happen if we take a pro coach, or a coach that is having a bad season, but I doubt that.

    The early signing period is in December for recruits, but that’s our problem for waiting so long to fire Helton. It has happened where I coach resigned after the last regular season game, and it’s then decided to let the interim coach take over, but not very often especially if it’s the national championship game. This is one reason to keep Donte so the recruiting stays steady until the new coach arrives.

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    1. Don’t be held hostage to this recruiting class BS … who the hell wants anyone this garbage staff has been recruiting. Gomer had 7 years and it ended up with a team full of cotton soft wide receivers. This defense looks like a high school defense. No size, speed or talent.

      Who the hell cares about this damn recruiting class ! After the crap we have watched the past decade let’s just get it right.

      Get the right coach ! Who gives a F when just get him. Then as John McKay said ‘ just win … they will knock the door down to play here ‘

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      1. I agree. Get a real good coach and we will move up fast in the recruiting rankings. A lot of players have not committed because they are waiting to see what happens at SC. Others will de-commit if we get the right coach.

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    2. 1. Aranda:
      Though the Baylor Bears lost to a fired up Jerry Kill TCU Frog team, I watched a fair chuck of the game. We already knew that the problem with Baylor is their pass D, and Kill exploited that weakness. I have to think that Aranda inherited lousy DB’s/pass rushers.

      Still, his TB ran the ball with fury and success, and his QB was efficient.
      My wife is smart enough to tell me to hope that our prospective coaches lose a few games so as to save us some money when we buy ’em out.

      1.1. Campbell
      A nice W vs the fighting Sarks. I watched this game intently and I love how his athletes play football. They actually looked better than Baylor this past weekend. He loves to throw to his TE’s.

      10. Jon Smith at Oregon State
      Lost to the hapless CU Buff Dorrells. Hmmm.

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  18. Let’s review who hired most of these current assistant coaches we have who have failed in recruiting, and developing players.

    Answer: Mike Bohn had the final say the last two years with the recommendations of Clay Helton. This is what scares me if Bohn can’t hire assistant football coaches how is he going to recruit a top name head coach for USC.

    This season has been a total waste of time, but nothing would make me more proud of our players would be to knock off UCLA, and USC needs to put all their energy beginning right now to get that done. Stick with one QB, and get the team super prepared for that game for a change. Install some new wrinkles to the offense , and plays. Do what it takes to win that 1 game.

    My other fear is that the Coliseum will be half empty for the UCLA game, USC will have very little home field advantage. The crowd plays a major factor in that game year after year.

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    1. UCLA is going to destroy this flaming mess called Donte’s Inferno … the gutties will run right over them. No matter what this crappy staff tries to do. Donte’s hot mess actually played well vs a punchless ASU team,that lost at home by 30 to Wazzu one week prior, and only lost by 15.
      Get this decade nightmare over and hire a real football coach for once rather than this 7 on 7 big talking frauds.

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    2. Graham Harrell was hired before Bohn came in, but he was given a pay raise to stay by Bohn. Bohn deserves blame for the Todd Orlando fiasco. I thought TO was a good coach, but the really telling fact is that Orlando’s defenses got worse in the second and third years, not better. Good coaches improve performance year over year, with a few bumps, but a general trajectory.

      I think that TO and GH are not at all on the same page and dont help to make the other side of the ball better.

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      1. Orlando was fired from Texas for the declining performance you cite. I think his lack of creativity, poor player development and inability to make in game adjustments are the reason for his failure. Of course, helton had those same traits and he is now a multi-millionaire. Who says crime doesn’t pay?

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    3. If the coliseum is half full, that’s a good thing. They will never do anything to go out there and put a great product on the field until it starts to hurt them in the pocket book. They don’t want to spend the money to win. But when you win big in power 5 football you always make money. Alabama spent $68 million last year on their program. But they made $128 million. They want the coliseum full but they don’t want to give up the power that you give up when you have a great football coach. It’s one or the other. Make them choose. It’s either mediocre coaches(yes men) and small crowds or great coaches(men who will demand things) and huge crowds and a lot of profits.

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    4. The patterns on the wall with Bohn and his incompetence as an AD. He sucked where ever he was at, before coiming to USC. He needs to go asap. All of us fans seen enough of this shyt show.

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  19. WOW………USC Basketball has the No. 4 2022 Ranked National Recruiting Class. Mike Bohn, time to give Andy Enfield a well deserved contract extension. He has built a solid basketball program at USC something no coach has ever done in a long time at SC if ever.
    Will Bohn force this coach to leave town also like the Track and Field Coach??????????????????????????????????????????????

    2022 Basketball Recruiting Class Rankings.

    1) Duke
    2) Arkansas
    3) Kansas
    4) USC

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  20. WOW………USC Basketball has the No. 4 2022 Ranked National Recruiting Class. Mike Bohn, time to give Andy Enfield a well deserved contract extension. He has built a solid basketball program at USC
    something no coach has ever done in a long time at SC if ever.
    Will Bohn force this coach to leave town also like the Track and Field Coach??????????????????????????????????????????????

    2022 Basketball Recruiting Class Rankings.

    1) Duke
    2) Arkansas
    3) Kansas
    4) USC

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  21. Actually D, Kentucky and Duke are 1 and 2 depending on whose rankings are referenced. So the bozo’s are #5 – for the time being. If the Bruins sign Mark Mitchell, UCLA will wind up in the top 3, 2022 CBB recruiting rankings.

    Here’s a couple of 2021 – 22 CBB pre-season team rankings.

    https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

    As usual, the bozo non-conf. schedule is liberally, loaded with cupcake/cream puff opponents. Based on the above pre-season rankings, Andyain’twinning doesn’t deserve a contract extension ’cause the bozo BB program is going nowhere on Andyain’twinning’s rickety, Clown U bus.

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  22. Good stuff Owns on Basketball recruiting. It’s time to dump this all this Pac 12 Football talk. The Pac 12 Football Season this year sucks none of the teams are competitive nationally. Oregon is a litter better than the rest of the teams but not by much, and I say they get smashed when they play Utah in two weeks so zero Pac 12 teams make the playoffs this year.

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  24. Has anybody else noticed that there has been no televised broadcast announcements to next week’s game against Cal? ESPN+ or FS1 maybe? Even Pac12 network and ESPNU passed on the option this time around.

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  25. Orgeron had a lot more experience,incl head coach…Donte zero compared to Ed O…
    it isn’t ones fault when higher ups put you there,you just do the best you can and sc had let hellton destroy sc blocking and tackling for yrs…Donte is not head coach material at this time…period, we all knew that before and now.

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  26. Great point Tim – would be the same with Helton had he only coached the Vegas Bowl, or additionally only finished up the one year after Sark was terminated. The problem with Helton, just like with any of the others, isn’t them – they didn’t hire themselves (amazing to me how many people don’t get that…similar to how people blame 20 year old kids…if the CB has bad technique, doesn’t look back for the ball, et al…who is the position coach? and who is the head coach who employs them? and why? who hired that person…it all goes back to the top).

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