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Caleb Williams Out Of Holiday Bowl

This is not exactly news but Lincoln Riley confirmed Caleb Williams is out of the Holiday Bowl. So Williams is not going to pull a Bo Nix.

What exactly is Miller Moss auditioning for if he starts the Holiday Bowl? Riley’s already visited Will Howard of Kansas State and wants a quarterback from the transfer portal.

This officially closes Williams’ USC career. He is the best QB in USC history. No one was more talented.

But Riley squandered his talent by surrounding him with sandcastle defenses the past 2 seasons that kept USC from being a College Football Playoff team.

103 thoughts on “Caleb Williams Out Of Holiday Bowl”

    1. Why the fuck should Miller Moss do Lincoln Riley any favors by running for his life and taking a beating in the Holiday bowl if Riley has no faith in him to lead the Trojans next season?

      Miller Moss should tell Lincoln Riley to go fuck himself and then hit the portal

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      1. Lincoln Riley fucked over the entire team when he decided to throw away this season by keeping those idiots Alex Grinch, Shaun Nua and Donte Williams on staff.

        None of the Trojan players owe Lincoln Riley a fucking thing!

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      2. Lincoln Riley is essentially telling Miller Moss that he has no future as a starting QB at USC, but that he wants Moss to take a beating vs Louisville in the Holiday bowl, take one for the team.

        Fuck that, Moss should have hit the portal yesterday

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  2. “Wait just a minute” with the Celeb is the SC GOAT-
    Paul McDonald won a national title, Haden got 2, Peete beat sucla twice, Palmer was a Heisman too and Leinart almost won 3 titles

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    1. Woof After The Fact Hyperbole (mostly trying to cover his $#!+stirring tracks)…

      If the argument is talent…think Palmer would be the one.
      On field performance…Leinart, hands down (with McDonald and Haden for show and place)…

      But for the sake of argumentation, CW is comparable to Peete (great performance, some team success, not surrounded by the talent and coaching the others above benefitted from).

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      1. I disagree!……. Leinart and Palmer are what would be described as pocket passers with limited athleticism and mobility. On the other hand, Caleb has a better arm with multiple release points and angles and is also more athletic and mobile.

        What really separated him from the two you mentioned was the ability to move the chains with his running. …….just my opinion!

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      2. I’m almost always fine with diverging opinions/pov’s …
        And I’ll grant that CW was certainly far more mobile than the earlier generation pocket passers (but note that was the style that was played when they played)…
        He did not have a better arm than Palmer – Palmer had one of the strongest arms in football history … not even a comparison between the two. Lots of people had better arms than Leinart, but he was absolutely adroit at putting the ball on target to the right target on time, which is what he was asked to do.
        USC had a QB similar to, and maybe could have been even better if he played today (Vince Evans…JD Booty was actually fairly similar …and Pete Beathard was a similar type back in the ’60s).

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      3. Let me counter your argument, if Caleb had played college football back in
        Palmer’s era with the skillset he currently possesses, he would have run circles around Palmer. IMO, Caleb has the stronger arm with the MUCH quicker release.

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      4. Nope! haha (again cool with disagreements and appreciated)
        Palmer was end line to end line – CW isn’t close in arm strength
        And CW would have been benched under Pete and Chow for failure to run the offense (to much ad libbing).
        But again – he plays to the style that is played today – maybe he would have been far more disciplined and even more effective playing on those infinitely more talented and better coached teams.
        So great discussion and appreciate your pov.

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      5. What good is arm strength if your release is slow? The best QBs in the game don’t have the strongest arms they have mobility with the quickest release…… everything Palmer was not ……do you watch much NFL?

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      6. I have watched more pro football than most going back to the 1970s…
        Quick release is indeed vital (Dan Marino put that to rest)
        Mobility was nice, but only now is essential
        Arm strength is essential (and Palmer did have a long stroke – but he QB’d the Bengals and Cardinals to division titles and not that long ago – that is the resume of Houdini).
        The greatest all-around combinations were Staubach and Montana…Mahomes in the present…and several others can also be added to the discussion no doubt.
        Great discussion.

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      7. Purely from a talent standpoint, not counting wins and losses, Aaron Rodgers would be my pick as the greatest. He checks all the boxes for me. Here’s the play that changed Palmer’s future in the NFL. Today a hit like that is a penalty with a potenial fine to the defender

        PS….great discussion, yes!

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      8. We know you know nothing about USC football, Board Coward, Zero Football IQ Charlie Bucket the UCLA Fan aka Cowardly Gabby/TebowObama

        Gabby
        AUGUST 30, 2023 AT 3:07 AM
        Fake gabby: USC Fan would know that teams intentionally kicked away from Trojan star kick returner and WR Curtis Conway.

        you stupid senile troll…..a kick returner returns kickoffs, and a punt returner returns punts…..Conway never returned a kickoff in his entire USC career.

        DEBUNKED AGAIN……BAAAAMMM CROTCH KICK…..tooo easy!

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      9. grabbbyy: Gabby fucked with me again. He knew Conway returned kickoffs while at USC. But intentionally said Conway never returned kickoffs knowing it would trigger my paranoia and get under my skin, it worked!

        I immediately went into a manic OCD rage and fired off zinger after zinger after zinger calling out his antics. While he was laughing his ass off. I was a mental mess last night and could not sleep knowing I took Gabby’s bait.

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      10. Lei art was the best touch passer I’ve ever seen. He read the defense extremely well. He wasn’t shaken up by 5 in the box, 6 in the box, 7 in the box or whatever. One of the greatest audibles in SC history was when he spotted the man to man coverage in the Bush Push Notre Dame game. He put the ball in a very tight window and I still don’t know how it got into the hands of the receiver for a huge gain

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    2. Beat me to it, I’d take Palmer or Matty over crybaby, paint my nails CW.

      Rodney Peete had a very good OL, good RB’s, good WR’s and the team played defense, team was far better than what they have now.

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      1. You’re totally clueless as to what it takes to be a modern-day successful QB at the college level and more so at the NFL level. You’re just another armchair QB with a low football IQ……If Palmer was playing college football today he would look like a turtle back there. He was constantly getting sacked in the NFL due to a lack of mobility.

        Do some more homework or listen to the people who have played the game and truly know what they are talking about

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      2. You do your homework, Board Coward, Zero Football IQ Charlie Bucket the UCLA Fan aka Cowardly Gabby/TebowObama. You don’t know anything about football or any other subject you grade school drop out. Tell us again that Curtis Conway never returned a kickoff for USC…. moron!

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      3. grabbbyy: Gabby fucked with me again. He knew Conway returned kickoffs while at USC. But intentionally said Conway never returned kickoffs knowing it would trigger my paranoia and get under my skin, it worked!

        I immediately went into a manic OCD rage and fired off zinger after zinger after zinger calling out his antics. While he was laughing his ass off. I was a mental mess last night and could not sleep knowing I took Gabby’s bait.

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    3. His W-L record, record vs. ND & UCLA, Rose Bowl (or other) record, Conference & National Championships define the USC GOAT.

      Caleb was blessed with great talent and betrayed by the coaches and rest of the team.

      18-8 win/loss record
      1 Heisman
      0 conference titles
      0 Rose (other) Bowl wins
      1-1 vs ND & ucla

      …it don’t add up.

      Caleb Williams isn’t the Greatest QB in USC history.

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      1. Caleb was the greatest “talent” to play at USC but lacked the supporting cast to nail down accomplishments at the team level.

        For example, Pac12 championship game. Caleb gets us up 17-0 and plays like Superman. Then one play changes everything. Caleb is down to one leg giving all he can and needs the defense to generate some key stops. His talent could not overcome the shortcoming of the defense that night even though he kept us in the game into the 4th quarter on basically one leg.

        Would Moss have been able to do the same on two good legs?

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    4. Board Coward, Zero Football IQ Charlie Bucket the UCLA Fan aka Cowardly Gabby/TebowObama knows nothing about USC’s rich heritage, she just just a pais spammer sent here to destroy Scott’s blog.

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  3. I guess Wiles is inferentially saying he doesn’t believe in his present quarterbacks as he scours the country for what he considers the right one or at least a better one.

    But watch, I bet Moss has a career game (which won’t be hard since he hasn’t really played ever) and dutifully remains a Trojan as a backup watching Nelson “hit the road”

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    1. The writing is on the wall with Moss. He needs to use the Bowl game as an audition and balls-out with the hope a school that needs his skillset will take him via the transfer portal.

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      3. Nelson has zero college experience! Coaches that use the portal are looking for players with experience at the FBS level and are game ready……Nelson is far from that and would be shooting himself in the foot by entering the portal with a potenial outcome not favorable to him…

        Remember, once you enter the portal the school is only obligated to let you finish out that semester. Then you’re on your own

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    2. John — A career game for Moss will be any game in which he throws for more than 43 yards….
      #So…I’mREALLYHopingForACareerGameInTheHolidayBowl….
      #…OrWe’reFucked
      #[MillerIsTheOnlyQBWhoHasChemistryWithDuceOnTheLongBall]

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    3. I would love to see Moss have a great game, I dont know if that is possible. The o-line might be a shambles. I really wonder how Malachi is shaping up. He was horrible in the Spring practice, or whatever they called that.

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  4. Maybe it was a good thing SC tanked because otherwise Celeb might have had to face Michigan and Alabama wildmen bent on ending Celeb’s NFL career before it even starts

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  5. Scott: This officially closes Williams’ USC career. He is the best QB in USC history. No one was more talented.

    Perhaps Scott’s most accurate opinion ever! ………I am 100% in agreement

    Caleb, I hope you go on to have a long injury-free, and prosperous NFL career. You will be dearly missed…….FIGHT ON!

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      1. Correct- Celeb won nothing. Board Coward, Zero Football IQ Charlie Bucket the UCLA Fan aka Cowardly Gabby/TebowObama knows nothing about USC and the rich traditions of quarterbacks like Pete Beathard, Mike Rae, Pat Haden, Vince Evans, Paul McDonald, Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart who won something. She is so ignorant of USC football she actually said here that Curtis Conway never returned a kickoff for USC in his entire career.

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      2. It’s obvious you’re clueless when it comes to football……NO ONE EVER
        RESPONDS TO YOU REGARDING FOOTBALL BECAUSE THEY KNOW YOU’RE LIMITED. your post-snap IQ is a big ZERO…..

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  6. I will agree that Celeb could dance better than anyone I ever saw especially in the 2022 Season,
    but the kid from Alabama has evolved into today’s “Mr Clutch”
    (however he has the advantage of being coached by ‘Satan’)

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    1. Apparently you never saw Michael Vick play.

      Not surprising seeing how you don’t know shit when it comes to football.

      RG3 also light years ahead of Caleb Williams in terms of escapability as a QB

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      1. RG3 was light years ahead of Caleb in terms of escapability…. until a certain game with Pete’s Seattle Seahawks…..
        #AfterThat,NotSoMuch

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      3. Super irresponsible —he ruined RG3’s career [I know he wanted to play —but he shouldn’t have been allowed to]….
        #AliWantedHolmes…ButHeShouldn’tHaveBeenAllowedToEither

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      2. Alabama’s QB doesn’t have anywhere near the speed on the ball or the accuracy of Caleb — but he played within the system. He didn’t change 55% of the plays before the snap the way Caleb did—- probably pissing off the entire offense who wanted to run Riley’s offense, not Caleb’s [since they could see doing it Caleb’s way wasn’t working].

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  7. Caleb Williams is not going to be able to escape pressure in the NFL the way he did in college.

    Mentally Caleb Williams is very immature, he won’t last 3 years in the NFL.

    When shit doesn’t go his way he breaks down and starts crying.

    He’ll be a bust

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    1. Hate to agree —but it takes more than talent to be a big success in the NFL —-
      #Caleb’sPhysicalSkillSetIsSecondToNone…
      #…ButHePoutedOnTheSidelinesMoreThanAnyTrojanQBInHistory

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  8. If Caleb Williams would have had any balls at all he would have told Lincoln Riley to fire Alex Grinch’s dumbass after last season and fix the fucking defense

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      1. Caleb Williams Locker Room Comments after Tulane Game:
        “Coach, Could I Make a Request? It has to do with Alex Grinch…..”

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  9. Bo Nix has opted to play in Oregon’s Bowl Game. I’m guessing he decided about 2 seconds after finding out Liberty was the opponent, and he could improve his draft stock by throwing for 500 yards in the first half.

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    1. And Caleb made his bowl decision right after he found out he’d be lowering his draft stock by going up against Louisville’s Top 15 D-backs and Top 20 D-Line …
      #[FortunatelyForUSC,TheirLinebackersSuck]

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      2. All of these players should be playing in this bowl game unless they are injured. Whatever happened to loyalty to your team when they need you. You listen to these players talk in the interviews and they keep talking about “the brotherhood” and “I have to support my brothers”. What they mean is “I have to support my brothers until it is not in my interest to support my brothers, then to hell with my brothers”. That’s why one famous person called the younger generation “the me generation”. It’s a good description of them.

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  10. ‘Christmas’ had a $2-million home just down the way from Wiles’ $17M
    and hence he became Wiley’s #1 ‘Yes-man’ as in
    “Sure Mr. Wiley sir, your offense can overcome my defense as always

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  11. If anybody else bows out of the “Louie Louie” game SC might have to start recruiting walk-ons and one speech Wiles won’t be giving–
    “OK men, all those who opted out of the Cal game in 2021 don’t have to play”

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    1. There would have been no dishonor in rejecting the Holiday Bowl bid — playing in that game without star receivers, running backs and quarterback is not gonna do our recruiting any favors…..

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      1. Doesnt the extra practices give the coaches a chance for developing players? Isnt this the time to bring along players that will play next year?

        I dont care if USC loses the bowl game, I just want to see young players look more developed and I want to see an offense that is not schoolyard ball. And I want to see some discipline in execution.

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      2. That would be nice…but don’t get your hopes up….
        #We’reTalkin’SameCoachesWhoBroughtYou2023RegularSeason

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      3. you can’t replicate the real-game experience at practice. This is a great opportunity for the backups to get some valuable playing time to help with their development and confidence. Win or lose, the game adds upside to the program as a whole.

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    1. I didn’t watch any Louisville football —but I remember Phil Steele saying after their spring game they were getting away from their dual threat approach and going with an immobile QB —if so, maybe our d-line will be able to finally get some results…
      #IWouldLoveToSeeOurD-LineGetAn”A”OnScott’sFinalReportCard

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  13. Actually, I would say that Caleb was squandered by an offensive line that was porous, a run attack that was inconsistent and offensive play-calling that is mediocre at best.

    I have this foggy idea that the influence of Kliff Kingsbury has alot to do with the failures of the offense, but have zero proof of that. I just think KK encourages Riley to revert to a schoolyard form of football.

    If USC had been executing on the offensive side consistently, they might have been the team that won all their games with one-score differences, instead of UW.

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    1. You do have proof, gametv: before Kliff, 11-1 regular season. After Kliff, 7-5 regular season. Lots of play changes 8 seconds before snap. Lots of show-offy sidearm passes by Caleb when normal throws would do just fine.

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      1. I do know if there proof but if Kingsbury takes another job in 24′, that would be good for SC because I don’t think LR wants to fire him

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  14. USC must go get a Quarterback in the transfer portal…. Plus Recruit BIG Defensive and Offensive Lineman. To compete in the big 10. And Fire shaun nua and donte williams…

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      1. Nua is a great guy [actually so is Donte] but they both need to go—they’re associated with too many all-time bad defensive games.

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  15. If SC gets the same quarterback that showed up in the Florida St game SC will be fine, but that is not how it usually works

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    1. The shar pei regrets not doing the same. She’s stuck with a cheap-ass coward who has no balls…..and jacks off in the outhouse to kiddie porn…..I am sure your old man is proud of you…I heard his nickname was Napoleon

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    2. As if anyone on this blog believes you were ever happily married. About the only woman who would be desperate enough to latch on to you would a foreigner doing it for a green card. And once the time was up for her to remain here legally without being married to your sorry butt, she left skidmarks on your forehead!

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  17. Final word on the Florida St situation is that the Seminoles’ fans were hungry for a winner as they had to go through 4 losing seasons until last season, and then this year they thought for sure they were going to the playoffs

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    1. Moss has one foot out the door after knowing Riley is sniffing around for a new
      QB. Riley knows what he has in Moss and isn’t impressed. That’s the reality of big-boy college football.

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