Morning Buzz: Do USC Coaches Know What They Don’t Know?

Is the USC coaching staff respected in the coaching community?

If you know coaches, you can ask around and get opinions. I asked someone who coaches an AFC East Division team that I was referred to by an ex-USC coach.

“You have a head coach that doesn’t know what he doesn’t know,” the NFL coach said. (Clay Helton) needs to look at the defensive coordinator and special teams coach and say, `we’re never going to win a national championship with that coaching staff.’ “
“Watching USC football is so embarassing to me. It looks nothing like it’s supposed to if you are going to be a national championship team.”

  • Helton does claim to know why Oregon’s getting more recruits from Souhern California.

“When you win Rose Bowls and Pac-12 titles, those are when you sign great players,” he said. “If you look at all these great freshmen and sophomores that are playing right now, it’s not a coincidence that they got signed right after that Rose Bowl year and that Pac-12 title.”

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43 thoughts on “Morning Buzz: Do USC Coaches Know What They Don’t Know?

  1. Gomer is really hanging his hat on the Sam Darnold titles!! He forgot to mention the California Championship he won with Sam. If he had half a brain he would have done like Mario Cristobal (Oregon coach) and flown himself and his staff to Alabama for a week to witness for themselves how a real successful staff coaches at the college level. Instead he stayed in sunny California surrounded by the likes of Callaway, Baxter, Pendergrass claiming he changed the culture. Someone tell this man that he sounds smarter when he just shuts up.

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  2. I don’t know what I don’t know. My knows that I don’t know it and keeps reminding me. She’ll say, “well what do you know?” I always say, “I dunno.” If I knew I wouldn’t tell anyone.

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    1. My wife knows. That’s what it said when I wrote it. Now I don’t know where the word wife went in my original post. I don’t know why the posts change with time.

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  3. So Helton, Sarkisian, and Kiffin are to USC football what Buchanan, Pierce, and Fillmore were to the presidency (believe at least one of them was referred to as a “know nothing”…and they all bungled the responsibilities of the office).

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      1. The old adage of fiddling while Rome burns…it’s an old story…kinda like when your local neighborhood star goes into a quiet phase and you end up with a period cooler temperatures…hey buddy, get your @$$ to work!

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    1. Be careful James.

      If you make that analogy then that means war at USC is just on the horizon.

      #BattleOfLosAngeles

      #IfWarIsComingThenFiringHeltonMightMakeHimAMartyrAndNoOneWantsThat

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  4. It is a total embarrassment knowing that a NFL coach thinks that Helton is an idiot. SC used to not only put players into the NFL but also assistant coaches as well. Look at Al Davis, the dude who coached the lions Corryell, the Washington Redskins coach who won a SuperBowl and now owns a race team, Hudson Houck, and so many others. Now, the coaches at SC couldn’t even coach at high school. What an embarrassment.

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    1. I am still scratching my head about Bryan Ellis, who was installed as QB coach, promoted from quality control assistant. And shortly before the Rose Bowl and Ohio State.

      (On the plus side, a year later, Ellis did find Slovis while recruiting in AZ. )

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      1. Unfortunately, Clay seems to bring out the worst in assistant coaches. Pendergast and Baxter for example, have been awful IMO on the SC staff. But going back in time, they were reasonably well-regarded. I really don’t see that, but their units must have performed much better than they are now.

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      2. That’s a prescient thought – like a new or refurbished part being installed on an old engine, perhaps…still don’t think they’re good, but they probably come off a lot worse than they really are trying to perform their duties under Helton…

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      3. McCullough —best position coach of the entire Helton era. Running backs loved him (and thrived under his tutelage). He was fighting to get the receivers under his wing also so that the skill players could learn from each other and work better together as a team. Of course that idea went nowhere. You can’t ignore the fact he needed “out” ASAP. That fact alone tells you everything you need to know.
        #KindaAmazingThatSwannCouldn’tSeeItToo

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      4. And he’s still thriving (now here in Kansas City with the Chiefs, with a wholesale change in the RB group from last year)…he’s well on his way to following another member of the KC staff (Eric Bienemy) down the path towards becoming at least an OC if not a HC not too far down the road…a really quality coach…would have fit in on any of the great staffs of the past…coaching under Andy Reid on the offensive side of the ball at least says it all…

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      5. 67 —You just asked the million dollar question. Pendergast and Baxter (in spite of the multiple shots they take here) were once considered to have elite skills as defensive and special teams coaches, respectively. They are now considered jokes. What kind of Head Coach can pull that off?
        #PeteHadTheExactOppositeEffectOnAssistantCoaches

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      6. James — I’m sure you have already done this but for those who haven’t, go back and watch McCullough interviewed on YouTube. He exudes confidence and football wisdom. Anyone can see why players would thrive under him. As far as being Head Coach material, I am pretty darn confident that USC wouldn’t have lost to BYU if he were leading the team into overtime. He’s a winner.

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      7. MG
        Couldn’t agree with you more. He is talented, confident, and has presence. He’s stern with out being stiff (and not yet – although probably will be! – taciturn), and it’s obvious he knows that he knows what he’s doing. In short – a leader. This team would be 8-0 under him (assuming the head shed sprung for him to have a sufficient supporting staff)…

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      8. James —You just compiled a list of all the things a school should be looking for in a Head Coach. Here’s the funny thing: I’ll bet ya anything that it will not even occur to out next Athletic Director (sure to be in place by 2025) that he consider McCullough.
        #Why?CuzWeCan’tSeePastOurNoses

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  5. I’m still laughing at the staff Bozo Helton assembled after he was named the head coach. Tee Martin fighting over play calling duties with Tyson Helton, a washed up unemployed offensive line coach Neil Calloway, and of course Clancy Pendergast 😂😂

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      1. Michael, great point. The Ducks are one of the more inconsistent teams – when they are off, they are beatable. One can score on them, and if Herbert can be forced to pass, they are not nearly as good as when they run at will.

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      2. I don’t think so MG. It’s bozo money driving the spread down.

        Why bet an early +6 line if smart Oregon bettors can sit back and let the fat cat bozos bet the + spread down.

        #usingothersuckersmoneytogainapropositionadvantage.

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      3. A very legitimate take on things, Owns…..
        #EitherWay,I’mNotBettingThisOne…
        #….[ButI’llBeSurprisedIfUSCDoesn’tWin]….
        #[btw,I’mLessConfidentAboutResultOfUCLAGame—
        #[…ItAllHasToDoWithEmotion&Motivation]….

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  6. I’ve said it before and say it again..
    ” Helton couldn’t find his way out of phone booth with a seeing eye dog & a flash light”

    Just wants hug’s and be loved—– PUKE!

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  7. Oregon won the Redbox Bowl against Michigan State last year 7-6. So if they didn’t win a Pac 12 championship or Rose Bowl, how are they recruiting the pants off of SC, Clay?

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  8. Helton: “But that weak nuclear force is still fighting and working to get better and I can’t wait to see how it competes with the strong nuclear force in November…” I hate to speak with such gravity, but…

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    1. Oh, shit,James! Hilarious. You’ve got Helton down!
      #ThinkAboutPuttingOnBaseballCap…
      #PuffingOutYourCheeksW/CottonLikeBrandoInGodfather….
      #….&GettingThatOnYouTube

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      1. The counterpart to Petros and Money imitating him on their show (which is very funny)…
        #I’dBeShockedIfHeRealizesTheWeakNuclearForceIsAllButInfinitelyMorePoowerfulThanGravity?
        #BlessedBeTheKliffKlavensOfTheWikiEra

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      2. James — That damn Helton. What is physics other than the study of the impact of the weak and strong nuclear forces, electromagnetism and gravity on matter…?
        #NoWonderHeDidn’tStartStepp!
        #smdh

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      1. Nothing will ever make up for ANY OF US (I suspect that less than 1% of the fanbase can avoid this, and I’m no exception) getting suckered into puffing up before that game…I mean, it’s not like we had Sam, RoJo, Adoree, JuJu, Uchenna, StevieT…oops…

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      2. Wow. Thanks for the reminder. Can you imagine what a game that would have been if Urban Meyer took those troops into battle against Alabama?!

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      3. Think it reasonable to suspect the winner’s circle would have been occupied by the good guys…and given how much success he’s had against Saban, perhaps by a good margin (particularly given the way the first quarter went)…at minimum, guarantee there wouldn’t be a rematch scheduled to open next year (and still wouldn’t be shocked if they withdrew if…if…please, please, I’ll be good Santa!…what should happen happens…).

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  9. And, you may add to the evaluation this: Every year , if Helton is retained , there will be a different excuse for losing. That is ewhy hre has to to be replaced even if he wins the rest of the games this year, which he wont, But, if by some quirk he does we would be remiss if we do not let him go. Ask the fans they know. Come on Administration get with it.

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