USC Notes: Here Is Something That Bothers Me

One thing that bothers me in the offseason:

Why is it when a player transfers, they are described as a four-star or five-star recruit from when they played in high school? A lot of these guys entered the transfer portal because they couldn’t get on the field at their original school.

So are they really a four-or-five star?

What have they done to deserve those stars in college?

Bru McCoy was a five-star and is on his third college. Do we need to hear about the stars as he becomes a junior at Tennessee?

You know why the fanboy media keeps referring to the stars? Because they are trying to get fans excited about every transfer.

  • General Booty, a QB at Tyler Junior College, has committed to Oklahoma. He is a nephew of former USC QB John David Booty.
  • Daylen Austin, a four-star 2023 cornerback from Long Beach Poly, has committed to LSU. USC had offered Austin.

45 thoughts on “USC Notes: Here Is Something That Bothers Me

  1. Smart observation by Scott. Stars are imperfect predictors. College stats are the real deal. If a 5 star sucks after 2 years of college it’s usually a mistake to act like he’s a superstar.
    #ThereAreExceptions…
    #SometimesPlayersLookBadCuzThey’reInTheWrongSystem…
    #..OrThey’reGettingOverInjuries….
    #GettingOneOfThoseGuysCanStillPossiblyBeAPlus

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    1. I might add that there are no stars given at the college level, only statistics, so it is proper reporting to state that a kid was a 4 or 5-star out of high school.

      And one advantage of “recruiting” kids out of the Portal is that there usually is some body of work at the college level to judge them, which is usually a better indicator of ability than their high school resume.

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  2. “Something that bothers me.” LMAO

    As if there’s only one thing. I needed that laugh.

    I mean, I’m really glad Scott keeps things in perspective. I think it’s ridiculous to think we’re going to become instant NC contenders. But that remark was funny.

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    1. We probably won’t be legitimate NC contenders in 2022—but winning the Pac 12 might get us into the Big Show….. whether we’re ready for it or not…

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      1. Get to the “Final-4′ and roll the dice. I still recall some of those under-manned Stanford teams with great quarterbacks like Jim Plunkett getting the best of superior teams.

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      2. Col. Kurtz from “Apocalypse Now”— “It is my dream, it is my nightmare…”
        #…[AsOpposedToFolt…WhoIsOnlyMyNightmare]…

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  3. Agree- 100% Scott. Let’s take Corey Foreman as an example. NO.1 RECRUIT in the Country when he came to USC. 5 Star Recruit. All the media had him as the next Superman=Clark Kent Jr.

    If he transferred right now the Portal would have him still as a 5 Star when in reality he was a total bust his freshman year, and now at best he should be rated a 3 Star until he proves otherwise.

    I think Mr. Foreman has his work cut out for him at SC. Lincoln Riley, cannot afford to be patient with his development, and the competition is getting stiff at the rush end position because of the transfer portal . I hope he makes it but it appears he at this stage he is way overrated like Drake Jackson who is from the same high school.

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      1. Michael, we are Always agreeing with Scott,
        whether it be agreeing or agreeing to disagree.
        (P.S. Don’t you just hate a smartass)

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    1. Well, these kids are being judged for what they did in high school, and Foreman was The Man at that level and deserving of his 5-star rating. The fact that he did not translate well to the college level is beside the point.

      It is much like Matt Leinart, who was All-World at SC but not so much in the pros.

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    2. Drake Jackson, second-round in the NFL draft–61st overall.
      Someone sees the talent.

      Truth is, DJ played on terrible teams with horrendous D coaching.
      Same with KOREY.

      While Grinch’s OU defense was not always noteworthy, he did have several of his defensive players drafted last month. Korey will be improved in 2022.

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  4. IF USC has any boosters left in baseball, and IF they know the game of baseball they should definitely put pressure on Mike Bohn to get rid of Baseball Coach Jason Gill. To me SC could easily land Coach Savage over at UCLA. He is a top of the line baseball man,excellent recruiter, and for sure USC could pay him much more than UCLA does currently. Please don’t forget that Savage was the USC pitching coaching, and I believe Mike Garrett or Pat Haden let him get away to UC Irvine before UCLA hired him.

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    1. I’ll play Scott for a minute: “USC can’t compete with public universities due to the limitation on baseball scholarships.” A) Why is there such a limitation? Seems like this sets up a non-level playing field (no pun intended). B) It’s time for some boosters to start setting up NIL deals for baseball.

      It’s been fifteen years since we’ve had any relevance, when Garrett “retired” Mike Gillespie and (weirdly) replaced him with that Dodger hack Chad Kreuter.

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    2. tommyd,

      Pat Haden offered Savage $1 mil per year to coach at USC. he said no.SC needs to give more financial aid through high GPA’s like Stanford and Rice do. SC will not give the money to players even if they earned it with grades. They just honor the scholarship amount.

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  5. Losing a cornerback to LSU……not a big problem…..losing O and D Linemen(especially ones from the SoCal area)……a big problem……Let’s be honest…..so far, LR hasn’t done any better than CH when it comes to O-Linemen……He has no O-Linemen out of high school from 2023 and he has 2 coming from the portal(one is a JC project).

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    1. Yes, it is alarming, 007, but it may very well be that the good linemen are waiting to see what SC can do in 2022.

      And again, especially offensive linemen are usually a tight knit group and less likely to transfer. I haven’t noticed too many linemen in the Portal, but I haven’t been watching it closely either.

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    2. He’s not doing any better than Helton YET …. cuz Helton stunk up our reputation as a landing point for first rate line coaches or players….it’s gonna take at least one winning season to undo the damage….
      Helton put it best himself when he told Georgia Southern boosters, “Boy, I’d hate like fuck to be the coach who comes after me here… poor guy won’t have anything to work with…it’s what I get paid the big bucks to do…”
      #”AllINeedToWreckAProgramIsABig,DumbA.D.”

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      1. “I’d hate to be the coach who comes after me”

        Good one

        Although it wouldn’t be quite like following Rockne.

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      2. Correct. It’s a different kind of “not wanting to come after” that occurs after a McKay or a Carroll than after a Helton…..
        #Day&NightKindaDifference

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      1. Actually, there was, LJ…
        As General William Tecumseh Sherman lead his march toward the Sea–his men traveling light and stretching supply lines and living off the land–he was known to say to the men, “take all the provision and booty you should need to sustain yourselves on this arduous and righteous march.”

        As you know, loyal Civil War soldiers were known to apply affectations to their leaders, and the morose old General Sherman thusly became known by his men as “General Booty.”

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  6. John David Booty was an excellent QB. Pete Carroll was once quoted as saying that if he had to pick the most accurate passer that he ever had(I’m assuming that he is talking about at SC), it would be J.D. Booty. Although limited in other areas physically(very immoble), he did have a tendency to put the ball right on the money.

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    1. …except when he had an injured thumb (Stanford—Owns second favorite game of all time) or got sacked real hard on the first series of the game (UCLA, 13-9 —Owns favorite game of all time)….
      #It’sHardToLoveAQBWhoHandedOwnsHisFavoriteGames

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      1. Owns is just one of those USC haters that I have often talked about on this forum. You said it yourself……Owns two favorite games of all time are 2 games where SC lost….enough said.

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      2. Hater? I think, deep down, Owns roots for USC against Notre Dame ….
        ….And probably Cal too….
        #TheOnlyThingOwnsREALLYHatesIsCal75

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  7. Maybe so, but Booty wasn’t so hot at Oregon St or in the game of his life with sucla’s 13-9 that cost SC a probable National Championship in 2006 and was SC’s last scent of a possible championship

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      1. He was accurate when he wasn’t getting his passes swatted down like SC’s last play against sucla in that 2006 game or the last play at Oregon St.

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  8. I just read the last passage in the prior segment that 6 Philadelphia Phillies have died of brain cancer in the past 20-years. What?

    If these were footballers I might get it, but baseball doesn’t hurt the brain unless you get hit in the head with one. This is synchronicity at its worst!

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  9. To stay healthy in Philly- That’s an easy one- Stay away from Philly Cheesesteak sandwiches at the ballpark.

    John David Booty was a little better than average QB surrounded by great players at SC.

    BS. – that private Universities cannot compete in college baseball any longer. How about Vanderbilt, Stanford, Notre Dame, TCU to name a few. USC can return to an elite level in college baseball if they want to by just hiring a successful coach- John Savage at UCLA would come back to SC if the price is right, and if our stupid athletic dept would make a committment to re-building the program. Mike Bohn, you made a huge investment in a women’s college basketball coach it appears that i will not pay dividends so make the same committment to Trojan baseball and it will pay off. If you don’t make the move now it will be too late.

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    1. tommyd,

      Good news, SC baseball will play away from Deadux field for 2 years. The Olympics are coming to town and they want to tear down the stadium and build. They eventually will build a new stadium for SC. They are going to redevelop around the stadium.

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